Motorbiking Northern Vietnam

Motorbiking Northern Vietnam | 13 Routes

Last updated January 2024 | Words and photos by Vietnam Coracle

Tom, Vietnam Coracle

Tom Divers is the founder and creator of Vietnam Coracle. He’s lived, travelled and worked in Vietnam since 2005. Born in London, he travelled from an early age, visiting over 40 countries (he first visited Vietnam in 1999). Now, whenever he has the opportunity to make a trip, he rarely looks beyond Vietnam’s borders and his trusty motorbike, Stavros. Read more about Tom on the About Page, Vietnam Times and ASE Podcast.


Northern Vietnam represents some of the best motorbiking opportunities in Southeast Asia. In the north, the mountains are higher and the passes loftier than anywhere else in Vietnam. For many riders, northern Vietnam is the highlight of their road trip experience. The scenery is sublime, the roads are ambitious, and the history and culture are fascinating. I’ve brought together all of my northern motorbike guides to create a collection of 13 Northern Routes. Riders can choose to pursue each route separately or link the guides together and follow them across the northern region, thus creating a ‘Great North’ itinerary.

Motorbiking Northern Vietnam
The North: sublime scenery, lofty mountain passes, fascinating history & culture

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MOTORBIKING NORTHERN VIETNAM


13 Motorbike Routes in the ‘Great North’

For each of the 13 northern motorbike routes on this page, I’ve included bullet-points for quick details, a brief overview, a direct link to the full guide, an embedded interactive map of the route, and a title image. I’ve listed the 13 northern routes geographically starting south of Hanoi and moving from west to east around the northern region. My colour-coded map features shaded areas indicating the regions covered by each of the 13 northern routes and direct links to the guides. Although these 13 northern routes cover thousands of kilometres, they represent just a fraction of the many great roads, tracks, and regions that northern Vietnam has to offer. The best time of year to ride in northern Vietnam is March-May and September-November. (In addition to the routes on this page, see Related Guides for more.)

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13 Northern Motorbike Routes

Muong Long Loop | Limestone Loop | Trans-Northern Belt Road | Harvest Route | Extreme Northwest Loop | Sin Ho Loop | Y Ty Loop | Borders & Back-Roads Loop | Tuyen Quang Magic 8 Loop | Extreme North Loop | High Roads Routes | Northeast Loops | Binh Lieu Loop


*Road Safety & Disclaimer: Riding a motorbike in Vietnam – or anywhere in the world – has its dangers. I would hope & expect anyone who chooses to pursue a self-drive road trip based on the information on this website does so with care, respect & due diligence. I encourage careful riding & adherence to road rules, but I am not responsible for the legality or manner in which you ride, nor any negative consequences which may result from your decision to ride a motorbike in Vietnam: you do so at your own risk. Read more >

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1. Muong Long Loop:

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  • Route: Vinh→Kim LiênThanh ChươngCon Cuông→Mường Xén→Mường LốngQùy Châu→Qùy Hợp
  • Distance & Duration: 630km; 4-7 days
  • Provinces: Nghê An
  • Scenery: verdant agricultural valleys, limestone karsts, brooding mountains, glistening rivers, rice fields, waterfalls, tea hills
  • Road conditions: good paved roads, occasional rough patches, opportunities for detours
  • Best Time of Year: April-July
  • Full Guide: The Mường Lống Loop

Nghệ An, in north-central Vietnam, is the largest province in the nation and one of the least explored by travellers. Riders usually skip this province, but Nghệ An is one of the best riding regions in the nation and should be considered a major destination for road-trippers. The Mường Lống Loop is a motorbike route to rival any other in Vietnam for scenery and adventure. This route stretches from the coast in the east to the mountainous border with Laos in the west, culminating in a mini-loop near Mường Lống, a remote village in the far northwest of the province, which is, without a doubt, one of the best stretches of road and scenery anywhere in Vietnam……continue reading

ROUTE MAP: The Mường Lống Loop


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Muong Long Loop, Nghe An Province, Vietnam motorbike guide

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2. Limestone Loop:

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  • Route: Hanoi→Mai Châu→Pù Luông→Lao border
  • Distance & Duration: 700-800km; 3-6 days
  • Provinces: Thanh Hóa & Hòa Bình
  • Scenery: limestone karsts, bamboo forests, villages, rice fields, homestays
  • Road conditions: mostly good, paved roads & lanes, some rough sections, fairly light traffic
  • Best time of year: March to October
  • Full Guide: The Limestone Loop

Spreading southwest of Hanoi, the Limestone Loop is just a few hours’ ride from the capital, and yet it takes in some of the most picturesque scenery in the country. Much of this motorbike route travels through Thanh Hóa, a province punctuated by limestone pinnacles, rivers, and rice paddies. Quiet roads meander along steep valleys cloaked in bamboo forests, and mountain passes twist skyward towards isolated Lao border crossings. Thanh Hóa is overlooked by most travellers in favour of neighbouring Ninh Bình, which is now extremely touristy. Thanh Hóa, on the other hand, is only recently starting to attract attention, in particular the stunning setting of Pù Luông Nature Reserve……continue reading

ROUTE MAP: The Limestone Loop


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The Limestone Motorbike Loop, northern Vietnam

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3. Trans-Northern Belt Road:

[Full Guide]

  • Route: Hạ Long→Điên Biên via road QL279
  • Distance & Duration: 937km; 3-6 days
  • Provinces: Bắc Giang, Lạng Son, Bắc Kạn, Tuyên Quang, Hà Giang, Lào Cai, Lai Châu, Sơn La, Điện Biên
  • Scenery: mountains, limestone karsts, jungles, rivers, valleys, villages, rice terraces, lakes, waterfalls
  • Road conditions: good, paved surface, some narrow sections, some roadworks, light traffic
  • Best time of year: March to October
  • Full Guide: Trans-Northern Belt Road

Traversing the breadth of Vietnam from east to west at its widest and most mountainous point, QL279 is an historic route and the third longest road in the nation, measuring 937km. Sometimes referred to as Đường Vành Đai Phía Bắc (Trans-Northern Belt Road), QL279 passes through 10 northern provinces and some of the most spectacular landscapes and complex terrain in the country. The road forms an arc across the northern crest of Vietnam, echoing the national border with China. QL279 is named after the short but bloody Sino-Vietnamese border war in February, 1979. Hence, 2=February, 79=1979, QL=quốc lộ (national route)……continue reading

ROUTE MAP: The Trans-Northern Belt Road


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QL279 Trans-Northern Belt Road, Vietnam motorbike guide

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4. Harvest Route:

[Full Guide]

  • Route: Mù Cang Chải→Tú Lệ
  • Distance & Duration: 50km; 1 day
  • Provinces: Yên Bái
  • Scenery: rice terraces, lush valleys, rivers, mountains, villages, homestays
  • Road conditions: good, paved main road & paved back-roads, usually light traffic
  • Best time of year: May to October
  • Full Guide: The Harvest Route

Every year, between September and October, the terraced rice fields of Mù Cang Chải, a rural district in Yên Bái Province, put on a show of picturesque harvest colours as hundreds of stepped rice paddies, carved into the contours of steep valleys, are illuminated by the autumn sun. The curving terraces, although man-made, appear to be in complete harmony with the landscape, creating a hypnotic patterning across the hills and valleys. I call this spectacle the ‘Theatre of Rice’ and the best way to see the ‘show’ is to ride the ‘Harvest Route’: a short and scenic section of Highway QL32 between the towns of Tú Lệ to Mù Cang Chải, via the lofty Khau Phạ Pass……continue reading

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Mu Cang Chai Harvest Route & the Theatre of Rice, Yen Bai, Vietnam

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5. Extreme Northwest Loop:

[Full Guide]

  • Route: Lào Cai→Lai Châu→Mường Lay→Mường Tè→Mường Nhé→Điện Biên Phủ
  • Distance & Duration: 300-800km; 2-7 days
  • Provinces: Lào Cai, Lai Châu & Điện Biên
  • Scenery: remote borderlands, mountains, rivers, rice terraces, villages
  • Road conditions: mostly paved, remote roads, high chance of landslides, very light traffic
  • Best time of year: April to October
  • Full Guide: Extreme Northwest Loop

A sprawling, mountainous bulge around the Black River basin, the extreme northwest of Vietnam is probably the most remote region of the entire country, and certainly one of the least-travelled. The extreme northwest abuts both China and Laos, thus this route travels through extensive borderlands, which are often very sensitive. Indeed, this region is perilously close to the infamous Golden Triangle. As such, local police, government officials, and travel restrictions will almost certainly hinder your progress. New roads through the mountains create an extremely mountainous, off-the-beaten-track, and circuitous route between Lào Cai and Điện Biên Phủ. The roads lead further, higher, and deeper into the northwest mountains than ever before, threading between peaks pushing 10,000ft, which are the southeastern-most extent of the same geological collision that formed the Himalayas…….continue reading

ROUTE MAP: The Extreme Northwest Loop


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The Extreme Northwest Route, northern Vietnam

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6. Sin Ho Loop:

[Full Guide]

  • Route: Sapa→Lai Châu→Sìn Hồ→Phong Thổ
  • Distance & Duration: 320km; 2-4 days
  • Provinces: Lai Châu
  • Scenery: big mountains, plunging valleys, rivers, rice terraces, light traffic
  • Road conditions: good mountain highways, paved back-roads, some rough patches
  • Best time of year: April to October
  • Full Guide: Sin Ho Loop

High up on the slopes of the Hoàng Liên Sơn Mountain Range (known in French colonial times as the Tonkinese Alps), Sìn Hồ is a small market town reached via spectacular mountain roads. While Sapa, the famous mountain retreat, is now enormously popular with Vietnamese and foreign tourists, Sìn Hồ is rarely visited by travellers. These two highland towns are connected by lofty mountain passes, affording jaw-dropping views over a landscape on a scale not found anywhere else in Vietnam. Ride the Sin Ho Loop and you’ll be rewarded with some of the grandest alpine scenery in Southeast Asia……continue reading

ROUTE MAP: The Sin Ho Loop


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Sapa to Sin Ho Scenic Motorbike Loop, Vietnam

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7. Y Ty Loop:

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  • Route: Sapa→Y Tý→Chinese border→Lào Cai
  • Distance & Duration: 195km; 1-2 days
  • Provinces: Lào Cai
  • Scenery: rice terraces, remote borderlands, mountains, rivers, villages
  • Road conditions: mostly paved back-roads, some bad sections, generally very light traffic
  • Best time of year: April to October
  • Full Guide: Y Ty Loop

North of Sapa, dramatic mountains continue all the way to the Chinese border. Several small roads penetrate deep into steep, terraced valleys and climb high above ferocious rivers, swollen with cold mountain water, to remote minority villages. Creating a scenic loop, starting and ending in Sapa via the hilltop hamlet of Y Tý, this relatively short but dramatic road trip is a great escape from the increasingly touristy mountain town of Sapa. Either bathed in a warm, sharp highland light shimmering over the ripe rice terraces like a halo, or covered in a cold, haunting, Dickensian fog so thick it induces feelings of claustrophobia, the Y Ty Loop is a rewarding (and occasionally challenging) way to spend a day or two in the saddle……continue reading

ROUTE MAP: Y Ty Loop


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Sapa to Y Ty Motorbike Loop, Vietnam

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8. Borders & Back-Roads Loop:

[Full Guide]

  • Route: Sapa→Lào Cai→Mường Khương→Si Ma Cai→Bắc Hà→Xín Mần→Hoàng Su Phì→ Hà Giang
  • Distance & Duration: 235-4805km; 2-5 days
  • Provinces: Lào Cai, Hà Giang
  • Scenery: mountains, gorges, borderlands, terraced rice fields, minority villages
  • Road conditions: mostly decent paved back-roads, some rough sections, risk of landslides, light traffic
  • Best time of year: April to October
  • Full Guide: Borders & Back-Roads Loop

Connecting two of the most mountainous provinces in the country (Lào Cai and Hà Giang), this motorbike route straddles the Chinese border, carving a meandering course over mountain ranges and along river valleys. Linking the towns of Sapa and Hà Giang, this road trip is a slow crawl through some of the remotest parts of Vietnam, mostly on small roads blasted out of the mountainsides. Dramatic scenery, fascinating border towns, ethnic minority markets, and lush farmland abound. This is a route to be taken slowly – there’s hardly a kilometre without a hairpin bend – and with plenty of time to allow for unforeseen circumstances, such as bad weather and landslides, which regularly block the way……continue reading

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9. Tuyen Quang Magic 8′ Loop:

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  • Route: Tuyên Quang→Vĩnh LộcNa HangLâm Bình
  • Distance & Duration: 260km; 2 days
  • Provinces: Tuyên Quang
  • Scenery: limestone karst mountains, rivers, lakes, rice fields, palm forests, fruit & vegetable farms
  • Road conditions: decent paved provincial roads, few rough patches, opportunities for off-road detours
  • Best time of year: April to October
  • Full Guide: Tuyen Quang Magic ‘8’ Loop

Under 100km from Hanoi, the terrestrially craggy and ethnically diverse province of Tuyên Quang lays hidden in plain sight. Like most areas of northern Vietnam that few can pinpoint on a map, the roads, which hug rivers, circle limestone karsts, bisect pomelo farms and vault mountain passes, make for an intrepid, rewarding and yet peaceful motorbiking experience. Encircled by more familiar northern destinations, the Tuyên Quang Magic ‘8’ Loop can be enjoyed as a stand-alone road trip from Hanoi or as part of a longer ‘Great North’ motorbike adventure……continue reading

ROUTE MAP: Tuyen Quang Magic ‘8’ Loop


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Tuyen Quang Magic 8 Loop, Vietnam motorbike guide

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10. Ha Giang Loop:

[Full Guide]

  • Route: Hà Giang→Tam Sơn→Yên Minh→Du Gìa→Đồng Văn→Mèo Vạc→Bảo Lạc
  • Distance & Duration: 385km; 3-7 days
  • Provinces: Hà Giang
  • Scenery: limestone karsts, deep gorges, remote borderlands, minority villages, rivers
  • Road conditions: very mountainous paved roads, some rough sections, fairly light traffic
  • Best time of year: April to October
  • Full Guide: The Ha Giang Loop

Hà Giang is Vietnam’s northern-most province. The mysterious landscape along the Chinese border – a mythical combination of conical limestone peaks and deep, craterous valleys – is probably the most striking in the country. Once considered the last frontier for adventurous travel in Vietnam, Hà Giang gained an almost legendary status among independent travellers. In recent years, visitor numbers have surged and road conditions have improved, making access to this remote part of the country relatively easy. With mountain passes hanging onto cliff-faces high above roaring rivers, and back-roads threading through forests of limestone pinnacles, it’s ideal territory for a motorbike road trip……continue reading

ROUTE MAP: The Ha Giang Loop


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Ha Giang, the Extreme North Motorbike Loop, Vietnam

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11. The High-Roads Routes:

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  • Route: Hà Giang→Ba Bể Lake→Cao Bằng
  • Distance & Duration: 310-370km; 1-3 days
  • Provinces: Hà Giang, Bắc Kạn, Cao Bằng
  • Scenery: limestone karsts, mountains, deep valleys, jungle, terraced rice fields, remote borderlands, minority villages
  • Road conditions: paved back-roads & mountain highways, optional off-road sections, risk of landslides, light traffic
  • Best time of year: April to October
  • Full Guide: The High-Roads Routes

The roads linking the three northern provinces of Hà Giang, Cao Bằng and Bắc Kạn travel through some of the most spectacular regions of Vietnam. The landscape around here is extraordinary: many travellers consider this their favourite corner of Southeast Asia. Connecting these three provinces, a handful of incredible mountain roads corkscrew their way through a complex terrain of steep valleys, limestone karsts, and raging rivers. There are several different route options for riding between Hà Giang, Ba Bể Lake (in Bắc Kạn Province), and Cao Bằng, all of which are stunning, but none of which are particularly straightforward, due to road conditions, mountainous topography, and the likelihood of landslides……continue reading

ROUTE MAP: The High-Roads Routes


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Ha Giang, Ba Be Lake, Cao Bang by motorbike, Vietnam

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12. The Northeast Loops:

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  • Route: Cao Bằng→Pác Bó Cave→Bản Giốc Falls→Lạng Sơn→Mẫu Sơn Mountain→Bắc Sơn→Bắc Kạn→Ba Bể Lake
  • Distance & Duration: 165-455km; 1-6 days
  • Provinces: Cao Bằng, Bắc Kạn, Lạng Sơn
  • Scenery: limestone karsts, villages, majestic waterfalls, caves, remote borders, mountains, lakes, rivers
  • Road conditions: good, paved back-roads & highways, some rough sections, off-road options, generally light traffic
  • Best time of year: April to October
  • Full Guide: The Northeast Loops

In my opinion, the three northeastern provinces of Cao Bằng, Lạng Sơn and Bắc Kạn currently offer the best on-road motorbiking opportunities anywhere in Vietnam. Why? Because all three northeastern provinces are utterly beautiful – characterized by limestone karsts, unbroken forests, misty mountains, blue rivers, farms, and craft villages – and are crisscrossed by a growing network of increasingly good-quality paved back-roads and national highways; tourists are few, traffic is generally very light, people are friendly, food is rustic and hearty, opportunities for getting off the beaten path are many, and there’s a real sense of adventure……continue reading

ROUTE MAP: The Northeast Loops


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The Northeast Motorbike Loops, Vietnam

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13. Binh Lieu Loop:

[Full Guide]

  • Route: Bình Liêu→China Border Road→Dinosaur Spine→Hoành Mô Border GateKhe Vằn Waterfall→Cao Sơn
  • Distance & Duration: 115km; 1-2 days
  • Provinces: Quảng Ninh
  • Scenery: extraordinary mountain views, deep valleys, forests, jungles, waterfalls, borderlands
  • Road conditions: good paved roads & narrow back-roads, very light traffic
  • Best time of year: March to October
  • Full Guide: Binh Lieu Loop

A small, mountainous district in the far northeast of Vietnam, Bình Liêu is home to some extraordinary roads, highland scenery, waterfalls, hiking and homestays. Hemmed in to the north, east and west by the Chinese border, Bình Liêu is part of Quảng Ninh Province. Barren mountains rise above lush valleys, ambitious roads lead up steep slopes and along precipitous ridges to frontier border towns and hamlets inhabited by several ethnic minority groups, who make up 96% of the district’s population. The Bình Liêu Loop, and the district more broadly, has the potential to be a mini Hà Giang for motorbike road-trippers. However, foreigners currently aren’t allowed to overnight in Bình Liêu without first obtaining a permit, and some areas of the district are off-limits to foreign travellers altogether……continue reading

ROUTE MAP: The Binh Lieu Loop


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Binh Lieu Loop, Vietnam motorbike guide

*Disclosure: I never receive payment for anything I write: my content is always free and independent. I’ve written this guide because I want to: I like these routes and I want my readers to know about them. For more details, see my Disclosure & Disclaimer statements and my About Page

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  1. Johnny C says:
    January 31, 2024 at 2:58 PM

    Hi Tom,

    Thank you for sharing your wealth of knowledge on Vietnam. Your blog is really the bible for anyone looking for a motorbike adventure in Vietnam!!

    I will be arriving in Hanoi end of March and will have a total of 15 days. Hoping to spend ~12 days exploring the north (I’ve done south to North route in 2015!). Not yet set on a route, but think of doing Ha Giang loop, combined with the High Roads and North East loops? Or would you rather suggest the trans northern route instead and possible heading north west?

    I was also wondering if you have any updated news on police checkpoints on the Ha Giang loop. From what I’ve been reading on Reddit and from info from the Styles Motorbikes rental company I contacted, it seems after a tourist death a year ago they’ve really intensified these checkpoints and you don’t get off as lightly with just a “coffee fine”. Fines seem to now be 1.5-2m dong. Have you heard anything recent on this?

    Also would you suggest renting in Hanoi and taking the train to Lao Cai or less hassle to just rent in Ha Giang and take a sleeper bus?

    Any input is much appreciated. Thanks again for all the info you put out there.

    1. Tom says:
      February 3, 2024 at 9:09 AM

      Hi Johnny,

      For bike rental, it would be best to take the bus to Ha Giang and rent there. Ha Giang has lots of bike rental outlets now – see our full Ha Giang Loop guide for details. Also, there have been reports of difficulties over the last year or so with taking motorbikes on the Hanoi-Lao Cai train, however you can do it by bus instead.

      We will be publishing a guide to taking the sleeper bus between Hanoi and Ha Giang pretty soon, so look out for that.

      Yes, there are now quite regular police check-points on the Ha Giang Loop, and most foreign riders will be stopped and fined if there do not have a local license or valid international license. It’s best to ask your bike rental company for more advice about that.

      As for the route, Ha Giang plus one of the High-Roads connections to the northeast is a good itinerary for 12 days riding in the north.

      An alternative would be be the Trans-Northern Belt Road plus a northwest route, such as the Sin Ho Loop. This would be much less touristy than the Ha Giang Loop, but this is a decision that most riders with limited time have to make.

      Best,

      Tom

  2. John says:
    August 15, 2023 at 7:04 AM

    Hi Tom,

    These guides are epic! I’m returning to Vietnam to complete my motorbike journey that was cut short due to covid from Jan -March of 2020, I got from Saigon to Hanoi before having to leave. Unfortunately, I have much less time for this trip so, my focus will be entirely on the north. Based on your description, Ha Giang, the High-Roads, and the North-East Loops are the way to go. I’ll have 2-2.5 weeks from mid-october this year.

    I was planning to keep the route fairly loose and see how I go each day and stitch together the routes you have highlighted. I was just wondering if you have any general suggestions, or advice regarding this trip? And specifically, do you have a recommended route out of Hanoi (or is it better to find bus/train out of hanoi and begin in Ha Giang, or some variation)?

    Very much appreciated!
    – John

    1. Tom says:
      August 17, 2023 at 8:00 AM

      Hi John,

      Yes, in general that sounds like a good idea and potential route.

      I would certainly suggest taking the bus to your start point and picking up your bike there rather than riding out from Hanoi, especially considering that 2-2.5 weeks isn’t that much time to ride the roads you’re considering: better to spend all your time riding the mountains than riding through the traffic and highways of Hanoi.

      That entire region is great for riding and scenery. Remember that road conditions change all the time and that if you’re going there between November-February temperatures can be surprisingly cold.

      The more flexible you can be with your route and your time, the better.

      Best,

      Tom

  3. Dennis Snider says:
    September 4, 2022 at 3:24 PM

    Hi ,
    just wanted to say I’m so happy I stumbled across your site.

    I’m going to Hanoi in Feb 2023 and would like to know in your opinion what the best 3 day ride for mountain valleys and steeped rice padys is. Also if you know of a reputable motorcycle rental company in Hanoi.

    Thanks
    Dennis Snider

    1. Tom says:
      September 5, 2022 at 4:47 AM

      Hi Dennis,

      For bike rental, please take a look at this page.

      Bear in mind that February is still technically ‘winter’ in the northern provinces of Vietnam, so it’s quite likely that the terraced rice fields will be fallow. For more, take a look at my Weather Guide.

      Mu Cang Chai and the Sin Ho Loop are both quite short and very pretty rides with lots of rice fields.

      Best,

      Tom

  4. Pat says:
    August 2, 2022 at 10:01 PM

    Tom, I just want to say this site is incredible. Its been the inspiration ALL YEAR for a motorbike trip to Vietnam and after holding out and hoping they’re would be longer visas issued, i’ve taken the 30days available and am now ready to tackle the North in September (1st-30th). Your site is a constant reference and in particular this guide.

    Following on from ‘Ben K’s comment, my plan all along is to actually do a Big Northern Loop. Landing in Hanoi and going south and then clockwise/west it looks something like (major stops only) Hanoi-Ninh Binh-Mai Chau-Dien Bien Phu-Sapa- Ha Giang- Cao Bang-Bac Son- Ha Long Bay/Cat Ba. Im pretty set on each day’s riding having around 19-20 stops which allows a week or so (allowing for extra stops along the way) to unwind on the CoTo islands/Cat Ba/ Ha Long Bay.

    My only empty route is from Bac Son to Haiphong. I know you’ve mentioned how uninspiring the road back to Hanoi from Haiphong is so i will probably get the train, but getting to Haiphong itself on two wheels i haven’t seen great deal covered. Is there a particular road you would rather choose or a favourite town that way to make a stop over at? Any feedback on the Loop in mind would be much appreciated.

    Thanks

    1. Tom says:
      August 4, 2022 at 1:24 PM

      Hi Pat,

      Thanks for your message.

      From Bac Son to Hai Phong (Cat Ba Island) you can combine roads QL1B due south for a bit until it joins up with road QL279 all the way to Ha Long City, from where you can put your bike on an amazing public ferry directly across to Cat Ba Island (read about that here). This should be a good route.

      However, I only get up to that particular region once a year at most, so I’m no authority.

      Other than that, your route is ambitious but good. The more time you have, the better. After the first few days you’ll have a better idea of how things are going to go. The biggest mistake most people (including myself) make is trying to do too much in too short a time. You need to expect that not everything will go according to plan: sometimes things are out of your control, such as weather or road works.

      I hope this helps,

      Tom

  5. Ben K says:
    July 26, 2022 at 4:49 PM

    Hey Tom, I’ve only just stumbled across your blog whilst trying to piece together the bare bones of a trip for next March, but it has been incredibly useful so far! All of these loops look amazing, and from what I can gather so much of what the country has to offer is in the North, though from what I can see there isn’t an “All in one” North Vietnam route. We have about 3 weeks, any suggestions?

    1. Tom says:
      July 27, 2022 at 4:34 AM

      Hi Ben,

      It’s a difficult decision, but on balance with three weeks you’d have a great time stitching together the Ha Giang Loop and the Northeast Loops via the High-Roads between the two.

      Please bear in mind that road conditions are in a constant state of flux in the northern mountains – check the comments section at the bottom of my guides for any recent reader updates and ask other travellers as you go.

      I hope this helps,

      Tom

  6. Paul F says:
    February 6, 2022 at 9:23 AM

    Hi, this looks good. Do you have a GPX for this route?

    1. Tom says:
      February 6, 2022 at 10:57 AM

      Hi Paul,

      There are 9 different routes on this page – if you click the link to each route, you will find a google map of that specific route. You can export each map and download the KML, then you should be able to open the map on your phone. However, it depends on your device, so you might need to google the method for your specific phone.

      Best,

      Tom