Ha Giang Extreme North Motorbike Loop

Last updated December 2019 | Words and photos by Vietnam Coracle


Ha Giang is Vietnam’s northern-most province. The mysterious landscape along the Chinese border – a mythical combination of conical limestone peaks and deep, craterous valleys – is probably the most striking in the country. Once considered the last frontier for adventurous travel in Vietnam, Ha Giang gained an almost legendary status among independent travellers. In recent years, visitor numbers have increased dramatically, and road conditions between Ha Giang, Dong Van, Meo Vac and Bao Lac have improved, making access to this remote part of the country relatively easy. With mountain passes hanging onto cliff-faces high above roaring rivers, and back-roads threading through forests of limestone pinnacles, it’s ideal territory for a motorbike road trip. Food, accommodation and ATMs can now be found throughout the region. Now is the time to ride the Ha Giang Extreme North Loop: before mass tourism arrives (which it inevitably will, especially as more travellers choose Ha Giang as an alternative to Sapa, which has suffered terribly from over-development) but after the completion of necessary infrastructure.

*IMPORTANT NOTE: from 31 October, 2018, it is now mandatory for all foreign riders in Ha Giang to have a Vietnamese license or International Driving Permit (IDP). Ask your rental company for further details.

The Ha Giang Extreme North Motorbike Loop, VietnamHa Giang Extreme North Loop: a legendary ride through a mythical landscape near the Chinese border

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  • Total Distance: 350km
  • Duration: 2-5 days
  • Route: Ha Giang-Tam Son-Yen Minh-Dong Van-Meo Vac-Du Gia-Bao Lac [MAP]
  • Road Conditions: very mountainous paved roads, some rough sections, light traffic
  • Scenery: limestone karsts, deep gorges, remote borderlands, minority villages


  • SECTION 1: Ha Giang-Tam Son (Quan Ba)-Yen Minh: 100km
  • SECTION 2Yen Minh-Dong Van-Meo Vac (via Ma Pi Leng Pass): 70km
  • SECTION 3Meo Vac-Du Gia-Ha Giang: 180km
  • SECTION 4Meo Vac-Bao Lac (for Cao Bang): 75km


I’ve written this motorbike guide in 4 Sections. The main route (the blue line) is a loop: Ha Giang-Tam Son-Yen Minh-Dong Van-Meo Vac-Du Gia-Ha Giang. But I have also included several scenic side trips and alternative routes (the red lines). Another option is to forgo the loop by continuing southeast from Meo Vac down to Bao Lac in Cao Bang Province (see Section 4). The total distance of the main loop is 350km. You can complete the ride in 2 days, but the outstanding scenery is such that I recommend 2-5 days. Motorbikes can be rented in Ha Giang, but by far the best place is QT Motorbikes, who can also offer excellent route advice. Officially, foreign travellers still require a permit to visit this area. However, this is now just a formality, and travellers can simply buy the permit (200,000-300,000vnđ [$10]) when they arrive at their accommodation anywhere on the loop. Weather is best from March-May and September-October, when conditions are warm and clear, colours are bright, and rainfall is light. (It can get bitterly cold during the winter months.) Although most of the roads are now in pretty good condition, there are still some sections that are rough, under repairs, or suffer from landslides. In this guide, and on my map, I’ve included warnings of rough roads, as well as recommendations of places to stay and eat, and sights and excursions along the way.

The Ha Giang Extreme North Motorbike Loop, VietnamThere are dozens of routes to choose from, all leading through outstanding scenery with views like this

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The Ha Giang Extreme North Loop | 350km

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Route: Ha Giang-Tam Son (Quan Ba)-Yen Minh | Distance: 100km [MAP]

Ha Giang, the provincial capital, is a likable city on the banks of the Lo (Blue) River which, despite its name, usually runs muddy and brown. It’s a comfortable place to prepare for the loop and, after the ride, to relax and recuperate. There are lots of good accommodation options on both sides of the river: Nguyen Trai Street on the west bank and Nguyen Thai Hoc Street on the east bank, which are connected by two bridges, one at either end. I prefer staying on the east bank because it’s close to cheap food options and there are plenty good guest houses (nhà nghỉ) and mini-hotels, some that are right on the riverfront (see below for details).

Ha Giang City, view from Thuy Tien Guest House, VietnamView from a balcony of Thuy Tien Guest House, just one of many good-value budget rooms in Ha Giang

For budget rooms with river views try Thuy Tien Guest House (19 Nguyen Thai Hoc; Tel: 0913 271 248) which  has balconies overlooking the river, or River Queen Guest House which has clean, new rooms, or the familiar Western Backpacker vibes of Ha Giang Backpacker Hostel, including dorms, or the Vietnamese backpacker vibes of Ong Vang Hostel, which has pod-like rooms by the river, or the fancier budget option of Tiamo Hotel. Other notable cheapies are Kiki’s House Hostel, Bong Ha Giang Hostel, and QT Hostel (owned by the excellent QT Motorbikes). All of the above run from $5-$15 a night, representing very good value for money. Another good choice, especially at the end of the loop, is to ‘treat yourself’ to the relative luxury of Truong Xuan Resort, which has bungalows in lush surroundings on the edge of town ($30).

Balcony at Truong Xuan Resort, Ha Giang City, VietnamLush: a guest room balcony at Truong Xuan Resort, by the riverside just a few minutes out of town

On Nguyen Thai Hoc Street there are several good ‘common’ rice eateries (quán cơm bình dân) where you point and order. These offer decent, local food for around 30,000-40,000vnđ ($2) per person (for more about quán cơm read this). If you’re looking for a feast – especially when returning from the loop after a few days of ‘mountain food’ – try the big riverside restaurants on Nguyen Trai Street; on the right hand side just north of the second (northern) bridge. Here you’ll find local specialities, such as salmon hotpot (lẩu cá hồi), for which the region is famous. For breakfast, I have a soft spot for this local place at 31 Nguyen Thai Hoc. A good place to buy supplies for snacks and picnics on the road is Ha Giang’s big central market.

Banh cuon for breakfast in Ha Giang, VietnamThere are plenty of local places to grab a bite any time of day. Pictured is my favourite breakfast spot

Take Road QL4C north out of Ha Giang towards Tam Son. It’s only a few kilometres before forested limestone mountains tower over you and irresistibly-blue rivers (depending on the season) run alongside the road. After 30km of winding through beautiful valleys, a rather cheap-looking gate announces your arrival at the Dong Van Karst Plateau Geo-Park. In case you didn’t get it the first time, there’s a sign on the hillside in giant Hollywood-style lettering with the park’s name in Vietnamese and English. The area was designated a UNESCO Global Geo-Park – only the second in Southeast Asia – in 2011. There are information boards by the roadside throughout the geo-park with (infuriatingly esoteric) details about the land formations in this region.

Road QL4C from Ha Giang to Tam Son (Quan Ba), VietnamJust a few minutes out of Ha Giang on Road QL4C and the scenery is already marvellous

The road begins a long, snaking ascent up Heaven’s Gate Pass (one of several so-named mountain passes in Vietnam). The views back down over the meandering road are terrific. After crossing a treeless plateau, Heaven’s Gate Pass drops down into Quan Ba District and the town of Tam Son, nestled in a valley between dozens of limestone ‘molehills’. Near the top of the pass there’s a viewing point and information centre with a coffee shop, where various maps of the area are available. Climb the steps behind the cafe up to a small gazebo for unobscured views of the entire district. (Be very careful when riding Heaven’s Gate Pass: some of the twists and turns are tight and narrow, and local driving can be extraordinary dangerous and irresponsible. Take care.)

Heaven's Gate Pass, Quan Ba, Ha Giang, VietnamLooking back over the twists & turns of Heaven’s Gate Pass as it crosses over the hills to Tam Son

Despite its scenic location, the town of Tam Son (also known as Quan Ba) is a fairly prosaic place. Most people simply stop for some lunch at one of the roadside eateries and a drink at the popular Yen Ngoc Cafe, before continuing on the road. However, Tam Son does have a few places to stay on the main street, should you feel like stopping for the night. These include Kim Son Motel (Tel: 098 908 3222) and Van Duy Hotel (Tel: 097 479 8468), both of which offer decent rooms for around 200,000vnd. But a much better option for an overnight stop is the collection of homestays in the valley a few minutes southeast of town. Dao Lodge Nam Dam is superb and Ly Ta Danh Homestay is also good.

Tam Son seen from the viewing point on Heaven's Gate Pass, Ha GiangTam Son (seen here from Heaven’s Gate Pass) is beautifully situated & there are several overnight options

From Tam Son, continue on Road QL4C east down to the Mien River valley. Before reaching the valley, the road passes a pair of distinctively round hillocks, which someone imaginatively named ‘fairy bosom’. At the end of a series of severe switchbacks (affording yet more stunning views), the road crosses the Mien River, following its course north through a steep canyon. There’s something beguiling about this bamboo-lined river valley. Hamlets of wooden houses line its banks and naked children fish, play and jump from boulders into the sluggish waters. Before the road veers east, it passes the ruined fortifications of Cán Tỷ which, I’m told, are from French colonial times, although they look much older.

Fun on the Mien RiverOn hot days, children jump from boulders into the muddy waters of the Mien River

Another long pass climbs up through a pretty, cultivated landscape close to the Chinese border, before cresting at a cool pine forest. Descending the other side into Yen Minh District, you’ll see the limestone forests of the Dong Van Plateau in the distance, looking like the crenulated ramparts of a giant castle. Yen Minh is another small, dusty town in a basin surrounded by great limestone pillars. Although it’s not a particularly charming place to stay, it’s a convenient stop and the main street has a few hotels to choose from. Try Thao Nguyen Hotel (Tel: 0219 385 2297) or Hai Son Guest House (Tel: 0219 385 2091) for clean rooms from 200-500,000vnđ. Or stay a few minutes ride out of town at the quiet and lush Sinh Thai Guest House (Tel: 097 559 2624). Food is available on the high-street in the form of dozens of rice eateries (quán cơm) and there are a couple of cafes too.

Dong Van Karst Plateau by motorbike, VietnamAs you drop down into Yen Minh, a forest of limestone hills comes into view in the distance

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Route: Yen Minh-Dong Van-Meo Vac (via Ma Pi Leng Pass) | Distance: 70km [MAP]

The 70km drive from Yen Minh to Meo Vac (via Dong Van and the Ma Pi Leng Pass) is perhaps the most remarkable stretch of road in the country. Road QL4C ploughs through a striking landscape of dramatic peaks and troughs, formed over millions of years by tectonic activity and the erosion of the limestone that defines this area. Limestone pinnacles rise and fall at regular intervals, creating the sense that one is in a stone forest. The shapes are so live and animated it’s as if the landscape were in fluid motion until it was suddenly petrified, like a frozen sea. The impression is of a mythical landscape equal to any Tolkienian novel or Chinese ink and wash painting.

Limestone karst landscape, Dong Van, Ha GiangDong Van Karst Plateau: a Tolkienian landscape of peaks and troughs, creating deep, shadowy valleys

Just as impressive as the topography are the ambitious roads that ride over and around this complex terrain. In the last few years, dozens of small paved lanes have been completed, criss-crossing the entire area. These offer tempting diversions, leading to isolated villages hidden deep in this strange landscape (see the red lines of my map).

Road through the Dong Van Karst Plateau, Ha GiangDozens of enticing roads wind around the often vertical slopes of the limestone karsts

The people who inhabit this region are predominantly ethnic minorities, particularly H’mong. For them, this rocky, treeless land offers little protection from the elements, and crops are limited because of the lack of fertile soil. Travellers who’ve come from Sapa, may find minority people in this region less forthcoming when compared to the business-savvy minorities in the northwest. However, children all along this route will skip and jump down the road screaming “‘ello” and occasionally putting their hands out for money. It might be a good idea to keep some small, nourishing snacks on you to offer these children as an alternative to money. One of the (many) problems is that, as the number of foreign travellers to this region has increased, many families have started to send their children onto the streets to ‘beg’ for money from these relatively wealthy visitors, rather than sending them to the local schools. Children may also pose for photos with foreign travellers and then ask for money. This is a dynamic which has made social interactions between foreign visitors and ethnic minorities in more touristy areas, such as Sapa, increasingly uneasy. It can be a difficult and confusing situation, and there are many different ways to think about it and to deal with it: do what you think is best.

Minority woman harvesting soy beansA minority woman harvesting soy beans on the slopes of the Dong Van Karst Plateau

A couple minutes after leaving Yen Minh, the road forks. From here, you can choose to ride the loop in either direction, but I have written this guide going clockwise on the loop, bearing left (due northeast) out of Yen Minh on Road QL4C towards Dong Van. A steep pass takes you immediately into the limestone karsts. Trees are noticeably absent from the rocky slopes, and there are no more terraced rice fields and fertile valleys. Instead, you’ll see acres of soy bean plantations, punctuated occasionally by clumps of sweet corn and stands of bamboo. Because there are no trees, the majority of structures are made of mud bricks or blocks cut from the limestone. Walled hamlets shelter in the tight clasp of conical hills, their shadows offering the only protection from sun and rain.

Road leading through the Dong Van Karst Plateau, Ha GiangParts of the limestone plateau are dry, arid & treeless, giving the landscape a strange, martian quality

After cutting along steep, treeless valleys, the road winds up to what has become known as the ‘Nine-Turn Pass‘. A helter-skelter stretch of tarmac, this pass is a favourite photo-opportunity for road-trippers. From the top, you can see the road snaking down to a flat valley encased by limestone karsts. A little further on, a left turn (due north) offers the opportunity for a short side route, heading to the market town of Pho Bang and a remote Chinese border. This is worth it if you have the time, especially in October, when the purple, pink and white buckwheat flowers are in bloom. Otherwise, continue straight on, down into another incredible, martian-looking valley. At the bottom, there’s a little homestay village where you can spend a night in pretty-looking adobe and baked-brick homes.

The '9-Turn Pass', Dong Van, Ha GiangThe ‘9-Turn Pass’ corkscrews up a steep incline, affording excellent views back down the valley

After more glorious scenery, there’s another fork in the road at Sa Phin. For an interesting detour, bear left (due north) at the Hoa Da Guest House, onto a winding, scenic and remote road leading all the way to Lung Cu, Vietnam’s ‘North Pole’. A spectacular 45km loop (ending back in Dong Van), this is a popular pilgrimage for young Vietnamese groups, who make the trip on motorbikes from Hanoi, wearing red and yellow T-shirts with the Vietnamese flag and ‘I love Vietnam’ printed on them. On the way, the road briefly runs parallel to the Chinese border. The border appears fluid and unguarded: motorbikes cross over to China and back again, passing a sinister milestone with a black skull and crossbones next to a few red-painted Chinese characters. (Obviously, it’s not a good idea to attempt to hop across to China for a couple of hours.)

Limestone karst forest on the road to Lung Cu, Ha GiangThe side route from Dong Van to Lung Cu (the ‘North Pole’) goes through a remote & spectacular region

At Lung Cu, the ‘North Pole’ (entrance: 20,000vnđ) takes the form of a tall tower atop a small hill with excellent views across to China from the top. There are a couple of good homestays in the area, including the popular Ma Le Homestay, located between Dong Van and Lung Cu, and Lolo Homestay, which is 5 minutes west of the pole itself. Both offer cosy, very cheap, friendly, communal-style accommodation and food. These are good alternatives to staying in the increasingly tour-group-filled town of Dong Van.

The tower at Lung Cu, Vietnam's 'North Pole', Ha GiangThe tower at Lũng Cú, Vietnam’s ‘North Pole’, is a popular pilgrimage for young Vietnamese travellers

If you don’t fancy the detour to the ‘North Pole’, take the right fork (due south, then east) at the Sa Phin junction to continue on the direct route (QL4C) to Dong Van. In a dramatic valley, just after the fork, there’s a small settlement clustered around a large stone building. This is the former palace of the H’mong king (entrance is a couple of dollars). Well worth a visit, this attractive stone and timber structure was built by the colonial French to keep the H’mong king happy (although I’ve been told several different stories about the construction of this palace). The H’mong king had a fearsome reputation and considerable wealth, gained from growing opium poppies in the area. The palace’s three stone courtyards and tiled rooftops look like a set from the Ang Lee martial arts movie, Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon. Outside, there’s a local market selling seasonal produce: in the autumn there are walnuts, chestnuts and star anise for sale. The palace is signposted off the main road, down a steep lane leading into the valley.

Entering the courtyard of the H'mong King's palace, Sa Phin, Ha GiangEntering the H’mong King’s Palace: a beautiful structure of stone courtyards, wooden doors & tiled roofs

The last 15km to Dong Van is an extraordinary ride through limestone pylons, each one casting a sinister shadow over the deep valley. The road is chiseled out of the mountains, gripping to the side of rocky cliffs. Sometimes there are no barriers; it feels like flying. But drive carefully, especially in the rain, because it’d only take a slight skid on a corner for you and your bike to plunge hundreds of feet into the valley. All along this road there are women and girls – from as young as 10 to as old as 80 – carrying heavy loads of wood, hay, and crops over their backs. The bodies of the older women have been permanently distorted, so that their backs are almost at right angles to their legs, even when walking unburdened. Before descending into Dong Van town, the main road (QL4C) is joined by the Lung Cu (‘North Pole’) road at Bui Homestay, which is a popular accommodation for Vietnamese backpackers.

Woman walks under heavy load, Dong Van, Ha GiangYoung girls and old ladies carry heavy loads for miles, eventually leading to permanent disfigurement

Dong Van is a fairly dusty and relatively busy town that’s enjoying a significant boom thanks to growing interest in travel to the region. It is essentially the ‘Sapa’ of the Extreme North. The majority of travellers to Ha Giang spend at least one night here, making Dong Van the most touristy town on the loop, and there’s a distinctive backpacker vibe to the place these days. There’s a clutch of good places to stay and eat in Dong Van, and the town boasts two markets: a big market held on weekends (known as the ‘new market’) and a smaller night market held every evening (known as the ‘old quarter market‘). The Lam Tung Hotel is my pick of the hotels, boasting excellent rooms with balconies, and perfectly located between the ‘new market’ and the ‘old market’. Another good mini-hotel is Hoang Ngoc, and the recently opened Hoa Cuong Hotel is by far Dong Van’s biggest, plushest accommodation. Dirt cheap rooms, specifically aimed at budget Vietnamese travellers can be found along the west side of the old quarter on Pho Co Street. These style themselves as ‘homestays‘ – look out for signs saying: phòng nghỉ tập thẻ.

Dong Van town high street, Ha Giang, VietnamDong Van high street: the town is experiencing a boom thanks to increased tourism in recent years

The phố cổ (old quarter), is where most of the action is. Originally a handful of picturesque old stone houses with tiled roofs, local authorities obviously recognized its tourist potential, because now a row of brand new ‘old quarter’ buildings have been constructed here. It’s quite tastefully done, with cafes and restaurants, some offering the mountain specialities of thắng cố and lẩu (horse meat and hotpot), and the night market held in the square here is a good place to while away an evening. For informal, cheap meals, rice and noodle eateries line Pho Co Street in the mornings and evenings. Decent cocktails (a rare treat on the Extreme North Loop) are served at the Green Karst Bar.

Inside an Old Quarter building in Dong Van, Ha GiangDong Van’s Old Quarter buildings have been renovated & many of them are now cafes & restaurants

Saving the best until last, the final stretch from Dong Van to Meo Vac is a 22km ride along the Ma Pi Leng Pass, a staggering road clinging to the edge of a wall of limestone mountains, towering hundreds of feet above the craterous Nho Que River valley. If any mountain pass in Vietnam deserves the title ‘epic’ it’s this one. After a short climb southeast out of Dong Van on Road QL4C, the ground seems to fall away, and you’re left gasping at the enormous chasm below. For 15km the road carves a terrifying path out of the mountainside. Incredibly, farming continues on the near-vertical slopes below and above the pass. This deep, treeless valley has the acoustics of an amphitheater: you can hear the voices of children and bleats of goats from way down on the banks of the river, echoing around the mountains.

The Ma Pi Leng Pass, Ha Giang, VietnamThe Ma Pi Leng Pass rides high above plunging valleys from Dong Van & Meo Vac: an astonishing road

There’s a viewing platform about halfway to Meo Vac where you can find refreshments. A little further on, the twists and turns open up mesmerizing views over a vast landscape that appears to have no discernible ‘bottom’, because the levels are constantly changing. It’s enough to induce feelings of vertigo. A particularly popular photo opportunity on the Ma Pi Leng Pass is looking back across the valley, down into a narrow gorge created by the Nho Que River as it squeezes through the mountains. This is, apparently, one of the deepest gorges in Southeast Asia. However, it may soon lose some of its majesty, because a dam is being constructed downstream, which will lead to a rise in water-level. In good weather, this short stretch of road can take a couple of hours because the views are so superb. It’s a thrilling ride.

The Ma Pi Leng Pass, Ha Giang, VietnamHigh up on the Ma Pi Leng Pass, other winding mountain roads can be seen twisting into the distance

If you just can’t get enough of this incredible scenery, there’s a side route, leading down to the Nho Que River and off to a remote Chinese border, which you can take in order to extend the high road a bit longer. As the Ma Pi Leng Pass drops down toward Meo Vac, you’ll see an enticing little road wriggling around the mountainside on the opposite side of the valley. Turn sharply left (almost completely back on yourself) and roll down through a series of very tight switchbacks all the way down to the river. Here, there’s a makeshift bridge across the Nho Que River, from where the road continues to curl up the hillsides to China. However, after the bridge, road conditions deteriorate a bit and, as you get closer to China, you may find the police turn you back to the main road. But the excellent views make this easy side route a worthwhile detour.

The Nho Que River valley, Ha Giang, VietnamA good side route leads off the Ma Pi Leng Pass & down to the Nho Que River, due east towards China

Meo Vac sits in a sheltered basin, bathed in blue shadows cast by the ubiquitous, looming limestone karsts. Meo Vac is my favourite town on the loop: if you only stay in one of the main towns make it Meo Vac. It’s small and manageable: quiet in the daytime but pleasantly bustling in the mornings and early evenings. There’s a good market, a new night market, plenty of accommodation, and the location – at the eastern edge of the loop – lends it a certain far-flung ambience.

The town of Meo Vac, Ha Giang Province, VietnamMeo Vac, my favourite town on the loop, sits in a basin beneath towering limestone mountains

For budget beds, I like the spotless, large rooms at Linh Anh Guest House (63A1 To 2; Tel: 094 817 4669; 200,000-400,000vnđ), or try Mr Hung’s Backpacker Guest House, or the pod-style lodgings at Ong Vang Hostel. Of the dozens of other good-value mini-hotels, Mai Dao and Huyen Loi, near the western edge of town, are both decent, and Meo Vac Hotel is right in the centre of town. However, for some of the most atmospheric lodgings in the entire region, check out the Auberge de Meo Vac (Tel: 0219 387 1686). A small boutique accommodation housed in an old H’mong family home, with a beautiful stone courtyard and adobe walls, the Auberge has dorm beds on the floor (300,000vnd) or private rooms (from $50). But book ahead, because they can only accommodate about a dozen guests. One thing I’ve found to be lacking on all my visits to Meo Vac is good food. There are street-side barbecues opposite the market, and several OK rice eateries on the west side of the market. For breakfast, there are cheap fried egg baguettes (bánh mì) in front of the market. Coffee is surprisingly decent at the cafes around the main square.

Auberge de Meo Vac, Ha Giang Province, VietnamThere are many good-value places to stay in Meo Vac: the most atmospheric is the Auberge de Meo Vac

From Meo Vac there are a couple of interesting side routes to explore, either as round trips or one-way (see the red lines on my map). For example, Road DT217 heads steeply out of town, via a good viewing gazebo, and leads southeast to the market town of Khau Vai and then down to the banks of the Nho Que River as it crashes through yet another rocky gorge. Khau Vai is famous for its annual ‘Love Market’, which takes place in the spring. However, this has become a massively touristy affair, so it’s best to ride this very scenic side route at any other time of year, when it’s virtually empty. It’s possible to continue on Road DT217 from Khau Vai to Bao Lac, in Cao Bang Province, although parts of the road are quite rough (see Section 4 for details).

Scenery on the road from Meo Vac to Khau Vai, Ha GiangThe side route on Road DT217 from Meo Vac to Khau Vai offers great scenery & quiet roads

Another side route is to loop from Meo Vac back up to Dong Van on road DT182 (marked in red on my map). This road sees hardly any traffic or foreign travellers. Passing through a dry, tree-starved landscape dominated by conical peaks and dotted with tiny settlements, the route offers an insight into how farming works in such a harsh region, and how difficult it must be to sustain a living on this land.

Farm produce outside a minority home, Meo Vac, Ha GiangThe porch of a minority home on the DT182 side route: pumpkins are one of the few crops that grow here

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Route: Meo Vac-Du Gia-Ha Giang | Distance: 180km [MAP]

From Meo Vac, there are several ways to complete the loop back to Ha Giang. Whichever route you choose, it’s another spectacular ride through karst scenery. The simplest route back to Ha Giang is to leave Meo Vac on Road DT182 (also marked as DT176) heading west towards the Mau Due crossroads. This ‘lower road’ passes through a stark, rock-strewn limestone valley with some death-defying sections of mountain road, before looping back to Yen Minh after bearing right (due north) at Mau Due along a pretty river valley. From Yen Minh simply retrace your outward route on Road QL4C back to Ha Giang. At 150km, this is the shortest option back to Ha Giang.

A road ploughs through limestone valleys, Meo Vac, Ha GiangThe lower route (Road DT182/176) from Meo Vac back to Yen Minh via Mau Due is another scenic ride

However, another alternative is to extend this return route by adding a highly recommended and scenic southern excursion to Du Gia. At the Mau Due crossroads, bear left (due south) onto Road DT176. This is an extraordinary road leading up a seemingly endless pass over a chain of high, jagged limestone peaks, then down the other side through pine forests and mysterious valleys, before the final breathtaking descent into an idyllic valley where the tiny hamlet of Du Gia offers a handful of good homestays (see below for details). Road conditions between Mau Due and Du Gia are mostly fine, but there are a few rough, rocky sections.

Spectacular scenery near Du Gia, Ha Giang ProvinceA highly recommended extension to the loop, road DT176 to Du Gia is a breathtaking ride over mountains

Stay at the Du Gia Homestay (the most authentic option; Tel: 0165 772 0252), or QT Guest House (the cleanest option; Tel: 097 527 8711), or Du Gia Backpacker Hostel (the most western-friendly option), all of which offer cheap, communal dorms sleeping on mattresses on the floor under mosquito nets in wooden stilt homes, with good family-style meals. There are lots of activities nearby, including swimming in the river, fishing, and hiking which can be arranged through your accommodation. Of all the stops on the loop, Du Gia is the least-visited, but if anything this area is even more spectacular than the rest. Some travellers end up spending days exploring Du Gia.

Homestay, Du Gia, Ha Giang Province, VietnamDu Gia boasts a few excellent, atmospheric homestays, which make a great base to explore the area

From Du Gia there are several options for completing the loop back to Ha Giang. However, road conditions may determine which one you choose. Heading south on DT176 to meet QL34 at Na Sai is the shortest route, but in reality it’s a long and difficult ride because road conditions deteriorate badly on DT176, meaning this route may be best avoided. The most scenic option is to head back several kilometres north of Du Gia on DT176 and then turn left (due west) on DT181, which leads all the way back to Tam Son (see the red line), then connecting with QL4C back to Ha Giang. This is almost the perfect loop, but for a couple of short, terrible sections of extremely rocky road surface. With a good, all-terrain bike you won’t have a problem, and even experienced riders on any standard automatic or semi-automatic bike should be OK, but if you’re not a particularly confident rider, these rocky sections can be dangerous and difficult so, sadly, it’s best avoided. This leaves the third, final, and easiest option from Du Gia back to Ha Giang: retrace DT176 back to the Mau Due junction, head due north on DT182 to Yen Minh, and then rejoin QL4C all the way back to Ha Giang, thus completing the Extreme North Motorbike Loop.

Mountain roads around Du Gia, Ha Giang ProvinceSeveral roads complete the loop from Du Gia back to Ha Giang, but road conditions are variable

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Route: Meo Vac-Bao Lac (for Cao Bang) | Distance: 75km [MAP]

The Extreme North Loop doesn’t have to be a loop. In the past, Meo Vac was the end of the road (well, the end of the good road), so it was necessary for most travellers to head back to Ha Giang. These days, however, you can forgo the loop altogether by continuing southeast from Meo Vac to Bao Lac, in Cao Bang Province, and then linking up with the Northeast Loop.

The road from Meo Vac to Bao Lac, Ha Giang, VietnamTwo roads continue southeast of Meo Vac to Bao Lac, in Cao Bang Province: DT217 and QL4C

There are two separate routes heading southeast from Meo Vac down to the Gam River valley: roads DT217 and QL4C. The former is the continuation of the Khau Vai side route from Meo Vac (see the red line), but this route suffers from unpredictable road conditions. Just south of Khau Vai village, Road DT217 crosses a bamboo raft ferry over the Nho Que River and continues on the other side all the way down to Bao Lac. However, the road conditions around the rivers were quite bad at the time of writing so, unless you have a good off-road bike, it’s probably best to take the other route (QL4C) from Meo Vac to Bao Lac instead. At some points along DT217 you might be forced to dismount the bike and nurse it across waterways that have flooded the road.

The road from Meo Vac to Bao Lac, Ha Giang, VietnamRoad DT217 has some difficult sections: you may be forced to dismount & walk across flooded roads

Road QL4C leads south of Meo Vac, passing more gorgeous valleys and descending a scenic pass to the Gam River. For the most part, this route is in good condition, but there are a couple of rough sections near the Nho Que River. However, I’d expect these to be finished by the first half of 2018. Road QL4C crosses the Gam River and ends at Ly Bon, where it joins QL34. Turn left (due east) towards Bao Lac. It’s usually significantly warmer and lusher in this valley than up in the higher lands around Meo Vac. QL34 is a beautiful route along a rich, fertile valley. But the road is cut out of steep slopes, so in rainy weather landslides are common. What’s more, there are currently (2019) major road works on the stretch of QL34 between Ly Bon and Bao Lac, so ride very carefully.

Rice terraces on the road from Meo Vac to Bao Lac, Ha GiangRice terraces on Road QL4C from Meo Vac to Bao Lac: a beautiful road & mostly in good condition

Bao Lac, where several rivers converge, is a natural rest stop for travellers going between the Extreme North and the Northeast. There are a couple of decent places to stay on the riverfront and plenty of food and drink. I like Thuy Duong 2 Hotel (Tel: 096 442 0802) and Duc Tai Hotel (Tel: 0919 835 866), both with rooms overlooking the river and town for around $10. A popular choice for backpackers is Viet Hoang Guest House (Tel: 020 637 0879). There are rice eateries and cafes on the dusty main street, and there’s even a couple of cocktails available at Tri An Cafe & Bar. Bao Lac has a decent market, which is at its busiest in the mornings. From Bao Lac it’s a straight shot on Road QL34 all the way to Cao Bang City, or south from Nguyen Binh on Road DT212 to Ba Be National Park. To find out more about continuing east to Cao Bang Province, take a look at my Northeast Loop guide and my High Roads guide.

The road east from Ha Giang Province to Cao Bang Province, VietnamFrom Bao Lac continue due east on Road QL34 for more spectacular riding on the Northeast Loop

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474 Responses to Ha Giang Extreme North Motorbike Loop

  1. Sandler says:

    So I’ve got a question. I am driving from Hanoi to Ha Giang (stopping half way and staying one night). I arrive in Ha Giang on the 18th of June. I need to be back in Ha Giang on the 24th. Will I have enough time to do the extreme North Loop as well as Ban Gioc Waterfall Loop. This will be my second time doing the Extreme North Loop. If I remember, I did it in 4 days so this should be plenty of time, but I am not sure of how much time I need to a lot for Ban Gioc.

    • Tom says:

      Hi Sandler,

      Well, yes that should really be enough time to include the ride out to Ban Gioc too, especially since you’ve ridden the Extreme North Loop before. However, there’s always the chance of something not going according to plan: heavy rain causing landslides, blocking roads or making them muddy and slow, for example. But the ride from Cao Bang to Ban Gioc and back again can be easily managed in a day if you’re pushed for time. Although of course it’s much more fun if you have time to stay overnight there.

      I hope this helps,


      • Sandler Ernst says:

        It does! I was going to extend the trip but was informed that Ha Giang is enforcing a 21 day quarantine..

  2. tuti says:

    Hi,my name is tuti.japanese.
    I went to ha giang by rental moto. date was 2021/March, 2 Weeks.
    in my trip, your site was very useful! thank you!

    i want to tell about new information about DT217,
    south bambo ferry area.(town name is NA HU?)
    in your article, road condition was quite bad,dirt road.
    you are right, i went there. my case, it was dirt and muddy.
    it was sunny day, so i run with sand(soil) dust air.
    if it was rain, quite dangerous.

    my route was from BAO LAC to bamboo ferry.
    when i was in COC PHUNG area,(dirt and muddy road driving!!! cannot engjoy!!!)
    i was able to see great view TRA LY area,great views my right side.
    so i turned back and change route to TRA LY. it was beautiful! and road is better than COC PHUNG.
    road was not asphalt,soil. but hard soil. good condition. not dusty maddy!
    I recommend TRA LY better than COC PHUNG! ( view of field and house are great!)

    • Tom says:

      Hi Tuti,

      Thank you for sharing your trip experience and road conditions in this area.

      Tra Ly sounds great.



      • tuti says:

        thank you for your reply. another question.
        do you have paper map? do you buy paper map?
        when i went to Thailand, i could buy “ROAD MAP” at convenience store.
        this map is one sheet paper, big and folded type.
        but i search bookstore and AEON mall(in long bien), i could not search.
        only tourist map and whole vietnam map.
        google map on smart phone is useful, but it has no passion.
        if you have information. pls teach.
        while driving, I want to have google map and paper map.

        • Tom says:

          Hi Tuti,

          I have written about printed maps on this page.

          If you can find the latest version of the printed map I mention on the page then it’s quite nice to have it as well as google maps.

          I hope this helps,


  3. Stephen says:

    Fantastic Site thank you so much for all the very handy information and map. This just made my planned trip so much easier.

  4. Greg says:

    Fantastic article!
    I’m considering riding around mid-late March, planning 5 days. Take my time, not rush.
    Any recent reports on the DT176 road south out of Du Gia, connecting to QL34 back to HG? I’ll be on Blade or Future, not off-road bike. Thanks!

    • Tom says:

      Hi Greg,

      I have heard reports that QL34 back to Ha Giang is in better condition now, but parts of DT176 between Du Gia and QL34 are still quite rough. However, apparently the rough section of DT181 between Du Gia and Tam Son is now in good condition. But please note that these updates are via other readers and commentators, not from my personal experience so I can’t vouch for them. Another good source of updates is the Vietnam Back Roads Facebook page: you could post your question there and I’m sure people will have answers.

      I hope this helps,


  5. Melisa says:

    Thanks Tom. Appreciate your informative sharing.

    What do u think about the wind and cold riding the loop during TET middle of Feb.?

    • Tom says:

      Hi Melisa,

      I’m not sure about the wind, but yes it will probably still be pretty cold on some of the high passes and low valleys up in Ha Giang during Tet. However, lots of people still ride the loop at that time and really enjoy it despite the colder conditions.


  6. Christophe says:

    Hi Tom, as always your guide is so useful, really love your site.

    I just come back from the loop and just one comment, on the route from Du Già to Quản Bạ, we took the 181, I didn’t notice any rough patch (or really small, nothing compared to the ones on the southern route), and not sure if where you marked it they are doing some works (after a village they were putting some gravel).

    Also around that point:

    There are two routes to go back, if you go left you go along the river, if you go right the mountain road. Everybody warned us not to go through the mountain (not sure if related to some landslides), and the river road that some people call “new” was of very good quality and not sure if lucky but we didn’t see any vehicle bigger than a scooter. I think they might have built a small road just to join the already existing river road.

    Cheers and thanks for all your hard work

    • Tom says:

      Hi Christophe,

      Thank you for these updates – they’re very useful.

      It’s good to hear that 181 between Du Gia and Quan Ba is now mostly in good condition. There are so many scenic roads in that region – it’s a beautiful part of the world.


  7. Brice says:

    I am riding the loop now, I think it could be useful to others :
    The “shortcut” to Yen Minh at Can Ty is now open and the road is really good, most of the buses doing the HG – Dong Van seems to use it (from Google Maps it’s cutting 20′ off). There is a signboard right after the bridge at Can Ty. When you reach the top the way down to the QL4C is really beautiful (on the way Quang Ba – Yen Minh).

    • Tom says:

      Hi Brice,

      Thank you for this update, it’s really useful and great to know. I can’t wait to get back up to Ha Giang and try it out.



  8. Nina says:

    Hi Tom,

    I hope this wasn’t asked before. When did yous exactly go onto the loop? The weather is amazing in your pictures. I know you gave a range when the weather is best but was wondering when you went.
    Your picture (where you stand at the The Ma Pi Leng Pass) can I just ask how did you get there? When looking up the viewpoints they don’t seem to be that one and I came across that one on a few blogger pages.

    Thanks a mil. Stay safe,

    • Tom says:

      Hi Nina,

      I’ve ridden this loop many times at many different times of year – the photos in this guide are a selection from several different trips. But in general, the best times of year to ride this loop are Sept-Oct and April-May.

      When you are on the Ma Pi Leng Pass there are dozens of good photo opportunities and viewpoints like the one in the photo – many of which are right beside the road.


  9. Adam Crowther says:

    Hi Tom,

    This all looks incredible, thanks for taking the time to detail the journey!

    A few of us will be looking to replicate a fair amount of this next month. If you were to recommend a rest day, where would it be? Preferably somewhere where we could explore a little, either on foot or a short bike ride away.



    • Tom says:

      Hi Adam,

      Sorry for my slow reply.

      The most common stops on the loop are Dong Van or Meo Vac. I prefer Meo Vac because it’s not as touristy as Dong Van. But if you stay at one of the nice homestays outside Dong Van this should be a good option too. I mention accommodation options in the guide and on the map.

      I hope this helps,


  10. Robert Booth says:

    Hi Tom.
    A couple of questions.
    1. Weather – it seems to be suggested April, May or September, October is best. What is wrong with June July, i would expect they are the warmest months there – but is there a lot of rain then?

    2. Getting from Hanoi to Ha Giang and back. I have talked with QT and I am not happy about the idea on them insisting that a drivers licence or passport original be left with them as security deposit for the duration of the rental. So i will go back to my old friends TIGIT who i have used a couple of times before . As i want a XR150 or similar it doesnt seem there is anyone in Ha Giang who can supply this type of bike other than QT. So the question is, can you suggest any interesting routes from Hanoi to Ha Giang and back (preferably two different routes), that are not horrible highways laden with large trucks and busses? I have plenty of time

    • Tom says:

      Hi Robert,

      Yes, it’s still fine to ride the loop in June and July, but because that’s the rainy season it’s possible that conditions will be wet.

      There are many ways to ride between Hanoi and Ha Giang, but the best way to do it would be to go there via Thac Ba Lake for a night at the homestays there, and then return via Ba Be Lake at the homestays there.

      For more about linking Ha Giang and Ba Be and the Northeast take a look at this page and this page.

      I hope this helps,


      • Robert Booth says:

        Thanks Tom. I have reviewed my plans and will shoot for a mid October trip.
        Have taken your advice and will plan route from Hanoi and back following your guidance.

  11. Giles says:

    Hi all, just so you kow the whole of Nam Dam village near Quan Ba is closed for about a month if you were thinking bout staying there

  12. Jason Kenner says:

    Hi Tom,

    Thank you for the excellent information. I’m planning on doing the loop early March 2020. Is it necessary to book accomodation and bikes in advance? I’d prefer not to to allow some flexibility. But will do if you think it’s risky to play it by ear at this time of year.

    I look forward to hearing from you!

    • Tom says:

      Hi Jason,

      If you happen to be travelling on a weekend or public holiday it might be necessary to book in advance.

      Personally, I would suggest booking at least your bike in advance (you can start by looking at QT Motorbikes – they’re very good).

      In general, during the week you shouldn’t need to book accommodation, unless there are particular homestays/hotels you want to stay in.

      However, bear in mind that the Ha Giang Loop is increasingly popular, so demand is always going up.

      I hope this helps,


    • Charles J Seanger says:

      Hi Tom~ Thanks for all the info. So…planned a loop tour starting March 8. Is there any restictions related to corono virus?

  13. Willem says:

    Great site thx for all the info .

    Im going to do The Loop later this year , i did ride a lot on a motorbike in Inda, Nepal and Thailand

    What about what kind of bike you need , you did it on a scooter , did it have enough power uphill , or is it better to take a bike with some more power ?

    What about petrol on The loop do you need to bring extra petrol with you or are there plenty opportunities to buy petrol ?

    • Tom says:

      Hi Willem,

      On the regular route (the blue line) there’s no need to have anything more powerful than a scooter or a regular 125cc semi-auto (as long as it’s in good condition). But if you want to ride some of the side routes (especially the ones with road works or rough dirt roads) then you’ll need something a bit more powerful. You can check out QT Motorbikes in Ha Giang – they have lots of different bike models available.

      There are gas stations at all of the towns on the loop so petrol shouldn’t be a problem.

      I hope this helps,


  14. Lyndsey says:

    Hi Tom
    Thanks so much for all the info.
    My partner and I are doing a three week honeymoon in March 2020. I am wondering if you could give me some advise on our (rough) itinerary. The only things booked are 5 days in Hoi An on arrival (time to unwind after a DIY wedding!) and a 2 day Halong cruise near the end of our holiday. so far this is what I have but am wondering if I should omit anything for a longer stay doing the Ha Giang Loop.

    5th Arrive Da Nang and stay in Hoi An
    10-11 Hue
    11-13 Phong Nha
    13-14 Ninh Binh/Tam Coc
    14-16 Hanoi,
    16- catch day bus to to Ha Giang and one night before loop
    17-20 Loop
    21 Return to Hanoi
    22-23 Halong
    23-25 Hanoi
    26 fly home from Hanoi

    Any recommendations or advice would be truly appreciated

    thanks Lyndsey

    • Hi Lyndsey,

      I would take a night sleeper bus to and from Ha Giang (get one of the ‘VIP’ limousine buses with flat beds) thus giving you at least one (if not, two) extra full days on the loop. You could also cut out one of your days in Hanoi, thus either giving you an extra day in Phong Nha or Hanoi.

      Personally, I think Ninh Binh/Tam Coc is overrated and overtouristy, especially when compared with Phong Nha and Ha Giang (although the latter is very popular now, too).

      I hope this helps,


  15. Mark says:

    How do you download the map on mobile phone for offline use while phone is in airplane mode? Is it possible?

    • Hi Mark,

      I’m not sure about that – but you can try opening the map in the Google Maps app on your phone. Or you can export the map to KML file and then upload it to the Maps.me app on your phone, which works offline.

      If this doesn’t work, try googling it for a solution.

      I hope this helps,


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