Sapa to Sin Ho Scenic Motorbike Loop, Vietnam

Sapa-Sin Ho Scenic Motorbike Loop

Last updated December 2017 | Words and photos by Vietnam Coracle | 238 comments

This post was last updated 8 years ago. Please check the comments section for possible updates, or read more on my Updates & Accuracy page.

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Sapa and Sin Ho are two towns high up on the slopes of the Hoàng Liên Sơn Mountain Range, known in French colonial times as the Tonkinese Alps. Sapa is a famous mountain retreat, enormously popular with Vietnamese and foreign tourists. Sin Ho, on the other hand, is hardly ever visited by travellers. These two highland towns are connected by lofty mountain passes, affording spectacular views over a landscape on a scale not found anywhere else in Vietnam. Rent a motorbike from Sapa and spend a couple of days on the Sapa-Sin Ho Scenic Loop; you’ll be rewarded with some of the grandest alpine scenery in Southeast Asia.

Sapa to Sin Ho Scenic Motorbike Loop, Vietnam

Majestic: the Sapa-Sin Ho Loop takes you through some of the grandest landscape in Southeast Asia

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GUIDE: SAPA-SIN HO SCENIC LOOP


ROAD TRIP DETAILS:

  • Total Distance: 320km
  • Duration: 2-4 days
  • Route: a round-trip between Sapa & Sin Ho on mountain passes [MAP]
  • Road Conditions: good mountain highways & back-roads, some rough patches
  • Scenery: the Tonkinese Alps: valleys, mountains & rivers on the roof of Indochina

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ROAD TRIP CONTENTS:

  • SECTION 1: Sapa to Lai Chau (via road QL4D): 70km
  • SECTION 2: Lai Chau to Sin Ho (via Phong Tho): 115km
  • SECTION 3: Sin Ho to Sapa (via road 4D cũ): 135km

ABOUT THIS ROUTE:

I’ve written this guide in 3 sections, going anti-clockwise on the loop, but you can drive it in either direction. The total distance is 320km, but I’ve also included an optional side loop which would add another 80km to the total distance. Note that each section doesn’t necessarily correspond to one day on the road. You could ride the entire loop in 2 days. However, the roads are steep and windy so progress is slower than in the lowlands, and the scenery is superb so you’ll want to stop regularly to admire the views. 3-4 days is perfect. Weather and time of year are important considerations on this loop. Landslides are a common occurrence after wet weather and can block roads for hours or even days. Unfortunately, weather is very hard to predict in this area and conditions can change very suddenly all year round. The good news is that most of the roads on this loop are now either in excellent condition or in the process of being upgraded. April-May and September-October are the best months to go: the weather is warm(-er) and the terraced rice fields are a good colour. Below is my full guide to the Sapa-Sin Ho Loop, including a description of the route, suggestions of places to stay, eat and see, and my annotated map.

The road to Sin Ho, Lai Chau, northern Vietnam

Threading through the mountains between Sapa & Sin Ho in Vietnam’s stunning northwest region


ROUTE MAP:

Sapa-Sin Ho Scenic Loop | 320km


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SECTION 1:

Route: Sapa to Lai Chau (via road QL4D) | Distance: 70km [MAP]

Head west on Road QL4D from the mist-shrouded town of Sapa. The first few kilometres getting out of Sapa can be pretty grim these days, because of potholed, mud-streaked, traffic-clogged, and construction-choked roads. Eventually, however, the road clears and passes a couple of pretty waterfalls (Silver Falls [Thác Bạc] & Love Falls [Thác Tình Yêu]) before reaching the top of the Tram Ton Pass (also known as O Quy Ho or Heaven’s Gate), Vietnam’s highest mountain road at 1,900m (6,230ft). You’ll know when you get here because, if the weather is clear, you’ll see the pass snaking around the mountains below you. Even in misty conditions you’ll know you’ve arrived because it’s significantly warmer on the pass than in Sapa: the pass is both a climatic divide and a provincial one, marking the border of Lao Cai and Lai Chau provinces. There are a few makeshift, rickety-looking viewing platforms by the roadside offering stupendous vistas.

Tram Ton, Vietnam's highest pass

The spectacular Tram Ton Pass is the highest road in Vietnam: it’s a wonderful ride

The impressive, crenelated ridge to the south is Mount Fansipan, Indochina’s highest peak at 3,143m (10,312ft). Its looming presence bears down on the pass, casting a cold shadow over the road. Deep down in the valley indigo rivers forge paths over large boulders. Fansipan is so big that it dominates the scenery all the way to Lai Chau.

The Tram Ton Pass winds down through more pristine alpine scenery and past the Dong Tien Son caves to Tam Duong town. It’s not much of a town – although its new multi-lane high-street would suggest otherwise – but if you need a rest there are a couple of good accommodation options and food stalls along the main road. Putaleng Hotel has excellent rooms for about $20, or cheaper digs can be found at Tan Sinh Guest House. Continue northwest on Road QL4D for 40km to Lai Chau (perhaps detouring to take a quick look at the impressive Tac Tinh Falls, just behind Tam Duong town). If you’re visiting during September or October look out for some absurdly pretty valleys of terraced rice fields about 10km before descending into Lai Chau. This is the kind of scenery that brochures promise Sapa will offer, but in reality you have to travel a little further afield to find sights like this….

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Terraced rice fields near Lai Chau

Scenes like this await you on the road to Lai Chau if you visit in late summer to early autumn

Lai Chau city is a brand new concrete creation in a remote valley surrounded by pyramidal peaks. It consists largely of grandiose government buildings, wide empty boulevards and depressingly vacant public spaces. On a wet, cold day Lai Chau is a painfully soulless place to be, but on a bright day it can be quite appealing. The scale of infrastructure and architecture are not in proportion to the population or significance of the city, but over the last couple of years local life has started to inject some character to this somber provincial capital. Thus, Lai Chau makes a convenient overnight stop. There are decent-value guest houses (‘nhà nghỉ‘ in Vietnamese) and hotels on the main road (30 Tháng 4 Street). Try Binh Long Hotel (2 Tháng 8 Street | tel: 0213 2488 488) or Hà Nhi Hotel (30 Tháng 4 Street | tel: 0213 6250 999) for cheap, clean rooms. Or you could ‘splash out’ ($30) on the Muong Thanh Lai Chau Hotel, which has balconies with views over the town and tea plantations as well as a (often dirty) pool. The area around the lake has some good bánh xèo (Vietnamese savoury pancakes) and ốc (snails and shells) joints in the late afternoon/evening. Or meat lovers should try the roast suckling pig (lợn quay) at Quán 25 (62, 30 Tháng 4 Street). For good coffee head to Gateway Cafe (305 Tran Hung Dao Street).

Lai Chau City, northern Vietnam

Lai Chau is a fairly soulless town, especially in bad weather, but it’ll do for a night

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Route: Lai Chau to Sin Ho (via Phong Tho) | Distance: 115km [MAP]

From Lai Chau continue northwest on Road QL4D toward the town of Phong Tho. This section of road is in very good condition and passes over high mountains before dropping down into a valley. Eight kilometres before reaching Phong Tho, there’s a turning due north for Muong So. This is the beginning of an optional and scenic side loop. The total distance of this detour is around 70-80km. The scenery is very mountainous, heavily farmed with terraces of rice and corn, and dotted with minority hamlets. There are a couple of local guest houses in Muong So, including the clean, simple and friendly Gia Bao (0976 677 999). Alternatively, continue on QL4D to Phong Tho, where there are more hotels and plenty of local rice eateries. By far the most atmospheric of the places to stay in Phong Tho is the Lan Anh Hotel (0989 673 888), a timber, tile and concrete structure built around a verdant courtyard. After Phong Tho the road turns back on itself, becoming QL12 and heading southwest along the Nam Na River valley. The road is in good condition, and it’s a quiet, easy stretch of riding through a pleasant valley all the way to the Nam Cay/Chan Nua junction.

Road QL12 from Phong Tho, Lai Chau Province, Vietnam

Road QL12 from Phong Tho is a pleasant, riverside ride on a good, quiet highway

Nam Cay/Chan Nua is less of a town and more of a country junction. There’s a guest house (nhà nghỉ) here called Hưng Tâm (Tel: 0948 943 643) if you feel like staying the night, and some local food is also available. At the junction turn left (due east) on Road TL128 for the impossibly scenic and steep ride to Sin Ho. In good weather this route is exceptional. Cutting a path in the mountainside, the single-lane road zig-zags up for 40km to the isolated mountaintop town of Sin Ho. The views over ridges, farmland, ethnic minority villages and clear rivers are superb. Every time I ride up here I have a grin on my face the whole way, constantly stopping and gazing in disbelief at the landscape. The road conditions are pretty good for most of the climb, but landslides are a regular occurrence, so expect some extended patches of earth, mud and potholes. If it’s been raining a lot, it may become quite slippery.

wonderful scenery around sin ho

Jaw-dropping: the scenery on the road to Sin Ho is simply staggering

Just when you think it can’t possibly get any better, the road snakes through a series of switchbacks until it bears northwards, thus opening up astonishing views down to the Nam Na river valley and far beyond to the distant mountain ranges straddling the border with China. It’s a breathtaking ride.

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Big landscape, road to Sin Ho

Tiny hamlets cling to mountainsides outside Sin Ho, blue ridges disappearing into the distance

Like Sapa, Sin Ho is often engulfed in mist and drizzling rain. The town is a bit scruffy and feels very remote. But, as with every town and city in Vietnam, upgrades to public spaces are beginning to make Sin Ho feel more welcoming with each year. Built on a small plateau, at an altitude of over 1,000m (3,300ft), Sin Ho is very cool, especially in the evenings. Ringed by limestone pinnacles and surrounded by minority villages scattered over the mountainside, this town has huge tourist potential, but as yet very few travellers make the trip.

Showers pass across Sin Ho plateau

Sin Ho is subject to very changeable weather, making the landscape mysterious and brooding

Try to time your visit to catch the Sunday market. Busiest between 8am-11am, Sin Ho market receives hundreds of minority women dressed in their various colourful clothing. They make the journey by foot (sometimes starting before dawn) in order to buy (not sell) supplies for the week ahead. Unlike Sapa market and the horrendously touristy Bac Ha Market, where minority people are more likely to be seen selling to foreign and Vietnamese tourists, Sin Ho market is the real deal. This means there’s no hassling to buy trinkets and garments: most of what’s for sale is fresh meat, vegetables, fruit and practical equipment for use in the villages. Sin Ho market is noticeably calm and unhurried compared to other, more famous, minority markets in the region.

Ethnic minority girl, Sin Ho Market, northern Vietnam

A girl from one of Vietnam’s many ethnic minorities shops at Sin Ho’s Sunday market

Sin Ho has a smattering of local cơm phở (rice and noodles) joints, particularly around the main square, and there’s a new bakery opened, called Thanh Nam. The town has an increasing number of budget places to stay, mostly in the form of nhà nghỉ (guest houses). However, by far my favourite place to stay is the Phuc Tho Hotel (0213 3870 186). Just a 30 second walk from the market, this is a relatively large hotel run by a sweet older couple. Rooms have balconies looking over town and the main square. Rooms are basic but clean, including hot water showers: 200,000-600,000vnđ for 2-6 people sharing. If, for some reason, you don’t like the Phuc Tho Hotel, there are several other decent accommodation options, including the Hong Hoa Guest House (o1687 271 123) and the Thai Binh Hotel (02313 870 366). But perhaps the most interesting (and certainly the cheapest) option is Ba Sanh Homestay (01649 434 628). On the southern edge of town, Ba Sanh offers dirt-cheap digs (a couple of dollars) sleeping in a communal room, but the real attraction is the Dao minority-style hot herbal baths. Costing just a few dollars (for staying or outside guests) these medicinal baths might be just what you need after a long, wet, cold day riding the mountain passes.

Unusually sunny, Sin Ho

Town in the clouds: Sin Ho sits on a plateau surrounded by high peaks

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SECTION 3:

Route: Sin Ho to Sapa (via road 4D cũ) | Distance: 135km [MAP]

The 60km descent on Road TL128 from Sin Ho back down to Lai Chau is just as beautiful as the ride up. As the road emerges from the mist, which on most days engulfs the town of Sin Ho, a vast landscape opens up beneath you: endless mountains stretching into the distance and craterous valleys dotted with stilt-home villages clustered around clear streams. However, there are some short but treacherous sections for the first 10km out of Sin Ho, where maintenance work is ongoing and landslides cause the surface to be muddy and slick. Take your time and take care on this section, especially in wet or damp conditions.

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About a third of the way down to Lai Chau, there’s a junction with a turn off to the right (due south) to Nam Tam. Although this looks like an appealing road to take, I was told that road conditions were bad. (If you want to go to Nam Tam, approach from the north via Lai Chau instead, as this road is good and scenic.). As road DT128 drops further, through very dense jungle, with the city of Lai Chau visible in the valley, take a short break from riding in order to visit the caves of Pu Sam Cap.

Descent, Sin Ho to Lai Chau

More wonderful and expansive views on the pass down from Sin Ho to Lai Chau

Back in Lai Chau take the alternative route (road 4D cũ) to Tam Duong. To get there turn right (due southeast) at the Ha Nhi Hotel on Dang Van Ngu Street. This is a pretty, quiet route through limestone karsts and extensive tea plantations. It’s almost exactly the same length as taking the main road (QL4D). From Tam Duong, rejoin QL4D and retrace your route back to Sapa via the Tram Ton Pass.

Road 4D cũ, Lai Chau to Tam Duong, Vietnam

Road 4D cũ (the alternative route from Lai Chau to Tam Duong) is a lush, quiet route through farmland

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  1. Leo says:
    March 30, 2026 at 3:05 PM

    Update 30.03.2026
    The road between Chan Nua and Sin Ho ist closed due to a landslide. Repair work is currently underway.

    1. Tom says:
      March 31, 2026 at 5:16 AM

      Hi Leo,

      Thanks for the update. I’m sure they’ll clear it quickly to make it at least passable for motorbikes.

      Best,

      Tom

  2. Evelyn says:
    March 30, 2026 at 2:10 PM

    Just tried this route, from Sapa – Sin Ho – Side Loop – Lai Chau – Nam Tam – Sin Ho – Lai Chau in 2 days on a Honda Air Blade.
    1. It is currently haze season, locals are burning their crops so the weather is not clear. Side road was honestly not very memorable because of this. I imagine the view for this route will be nicer without the haze. Road condition wise, mostly good, passing by a lot of small villages.
    2. Route from Lai Chau down to Nam Tam was honestly the highlight for me, road condition from Nam Tam towards Sin Ho was a bit bumpy with pot holes but still manageable. This route was very quiet and empty.
    3. Went further out of Sin Ho to Đỉnh Cát Chùa Sì. As some already mentioned, ongoing constructions is still happening. Road condition is terrible. It is currently dry season but there was a heavy vehicle pouring water on the path so it got muddy.
    4. For accommodation, I spent 2 night in Lai Chau. Muong Thanh Lai Chau Hotel is quite good, just that it is a bit far out of the main town area. But would highly recommend.

    This is honestly one of the best route I’ve taken on a bike. Appreciate you sharing this hidden gem.

    1. Tom says:
      March 31, 2026 at 5:23 AM

      Hi Evelyn,

      Thanks for the updates and your trip report. Sorry about the weather and the smoke, but there’s not much you can do about that – there’s always a chance of bad conditions. But I’m glad you enjoyed this route – there’s some fantastic scenery and riding on it!

      Best,

      Tom

  3. Danusha says:
    March 24, 2026 at 5:54 AM

    Hi Tom,

    Thank you very much for your super detailed description of the route.
    I meant to do Y Ty ride, but got a bit discouraged as i couldn’t get clear info on roads conditions and border areas permits. Anywho:
    1. The whole route is very picturesque. The Heaven’s Gate pass is out of this world (pun intended:))
    2. Yes, many of the acommodations recommended in the post have changed/closed down etc. Ba Sanh in Sin Ho is not operating anymore. Anh La hotel is super quirky. Not the cleanest, but hey, hot water and clean bed sheets were all i needed really.
    3. I stayed in Thai Binh Hotel and right next door there is a place where you can get the Dao bath and a.massage! A true MUST do. 150k for a herbal bath.
    4. The road to Sin Ho is a mixed bag. There are very narrow, one lane stretches, there is a newly paved, beautiful, wide and double lane road there, and there is a stretch of about 10-15 km, very close to the town already, which is just a mess. I was riding just after a storm- mud everywhere and sliding more than riding. They do work on that road, though, as machinery and workers were on it even on Sunday.
    5. A pity, it got really foggy on ny way from Sin Ho to Lai Chau, as I reckon the views would be amazing. There is a small coffee stop, run by a young couple, just as you Ahong Quan Coffees (junction DT128 and the other south bound road, before Seo Lang), with a sit down space on a tarace- a great view piont.
    6. The detour road to Nam Tam is great! Gorgeous views on tea plantations. Also, a new wide road

    Overall, I was really impressed with the quality of the roads all along. Let’s not forget that these are roads leading to hidden mountainous towns and villages. Also, Sin Ho is not a touristy place by all means. Google translate and very local food would be your staple. People are very welcoming and helpful, along the way- not one bad experience.

    Thanks again, Tom, for recommending it!

    1. Tom says:
      March 25, 2026 at 2:44 AM

      Hi Danusha,

      Thank you for your trip report and updates on this loop. I’m happy to hear you enjoyed it. I plan to head up there later this year to write a complete update of this guide.

      Best,

      Tom

  4. Avi says:
    October 21, 2025 at 6:14 PM

    Hi all, we recently completed part of the loop (Sapa to Lai Chau + the bonus red loop, had to stop due to bad weather). We rode basic Honda Airblades rented from a lovely shop in sapa town. Roads were ok with a few landslides along the way, though a lane is cleared out for passing vehicles.
    The bonus loop was our favorite section, many friendly people along the way and the scenery is great.
    We found the accomodations along this loop to be a bit of a challenge. The Minh Son hotel in Lai Chau was decent but very basic. The Lan Anh in Phong Tho was just dirty and the other guest house in town was even worse. I’d recommend in this loop to try to see the rooms before paying.

    1. Tom says:
      October 22, 2025 at 3:24 AM

      Hi Avi,

      Thanks for the trip report. I’m glad you enjoyed the route. Yes, I agree, it’s a good idea to check out the rooms before deciding to stay.

      Best,

      Tom

  5. Angie Curran says:
    October 13, 2025 at 8:17 AM

    Hi, I have just booked an SUV to take 3 of us on the loop this Friday, 17 October for 2 nights. I am really hoping the road is ok for a car. Any updates to help me would be appreciated, thanks
    Angie

    1. Tom says:
      October 13, 2025 at 9:15 AM

      Hi Angie,

      Most of the loop should be OK. But there are still some reports of specific sections that could be difficult, even in a car. I suggest digging into the comments below (they are all date stamped) and you can also look at the comments in this guide (which includes part of the Sin Ho Loop), especially the most recent, very long comment which includes a couple of important paragraphs about road conditions on the Sin Ho Loop.

      Best,

      Tom

  6. Stefano says:
    September 10, 2025 at 7:04 AM

    Hello everybody,

    I am doing the Sinh Ho loop and I am currently in Lai Chau.

    I found a nice, clean and cheap hotel (250.000 vnd per night) in a very quiet neighborhood, it has soft mattresses, so I highly suggest it to anyone passing here in Lai Chau.

    The hotel is called Viet Trang Hotel, and the address is:
    So 002 – Nguyen Dihn Chieu – P. Dong Phong – Lai Chau

    On google maps the address appears to be slightly different, so I am writing it in here just in case:
    9FJH+FRW, Nguyễn Đình Chiểu, Tân Phong, Lai Châu

    Wishing you all a happy trip!

    Stefano

    1. Tom says:
      September 10, 2025 at 11:26 AM

      Hi Stefano,

      OK, thanks for the suggestion.

      Best,

      Tom

  7. Dan Fossard says:
    August 23, 2025 at 7:42 AM

    As of August 2025 the last stretch of road heading to Sin Ho (TL128) is really challenging. Bad road surface and looks like they’re building a new road as most of it is dug up and covered in gravel or loose stones. The last 40km was horrible. Spectacular scenery but just awful road surfaces. The rest of it was beautiful flat smooth roads and stunning scenery all the way. Thanks Tom.

    1. Tom says:
      August 23, 2025 at 9:51 AM

      Hi Dan,

      Thanks for this update. That is very disappointing news about that stretch of road – they have been working on sections of that constantly for over a decade now! I guess it just must be a very tricky section of land to build on.

      Best,

      Tom

  8. Riccardo says:
    August 11, 2025 at 8:40 AM

    Hello Tom,

    first of all thanks for your great work! Me and my partner are following you since three years and I must say I really admire the commitment you put in showing people the real Vietnam. I have a couple of questions that I couldn’t answer completely from the comments. I’m planning on doing the loop at the end of August, I know it’s hard to say but do you think it’s safe to do the trip at this time of the year? I’ve seen from the comments that a couple did the loop with a 135cc automatic, but I wanted to be sure it’s a safe choice. I know how to drive an automatic scooter, I’m just not confident with semi or manual ones. Do you think it’s safe to do the loop if we are 2 using one automatic?

    Thanks in advance!

    Riccardo

    1. Tom says:
      August 11, 2025 at 9:29 AM

      Hi Riccardo,

      This loop is rideable on an automatic scooter as long as it’s in good condition. Most of the roads on this loop are fully paved, but are very steep and windy. In good weather conditions and on a bike that is in good condition, there is no reason that you can’t ride this loop with two people on an automatic bike. For example, my parents and I rode this loop on 115cc autos.

      However, you must always be very careful when riding these roads, especially in wet or misty weather conditions. If there are sections of road that are muddy or under construction, then it might be a good idea to let one person get off the bike, because it is easier to control the bike in mud with less weight.

      If you don’t feel confident riding a bike on these mountain roads with a passenger, then don’t do it.

      Best,

      Tom

      1. Riccardo says:
        August 11, 2025 at 12:13 PM

        Thanks Tom!

        That was very helpful as always!

        Cheers

  9. Diego Campos says:
    November 14, 2024 at 9:12 AM

    Did the loop from Sapa to Lai Chau and then the extra 80km and back cause we didnt have enought time. We were looking for an alternative to Ha Giang and It was just perfect. We only saw few locals on the road, no tourists at all and the views were amazing!!!! We even stopped in a random hamlet to rest a little and the locals invited us to drink and eat…amazing. The road was on perfect condition except the 3 last km that were bumpy due to landslides we suppose…. But totally recommended!!!! Just FYI we did the route with Honda Wave S so any 100cc bike would work.

    1. Tom says:
      November 14, 2024 at 9:44 AM

      Hi Diego,

      Thank you for your trip report and road updates – it’s very useful to me and other riders. I’m really happy to hear you enjoy this route and got to experience a beautiful part of Vietnam away from the crowds. And yes, I agree, any motorbike can do this loop if it’s in good condition and the roads are clear.

      Best,

      Tom

  10. Val says:
    October 31, 2024 at 3:07 AM

    Great loop, thanks for sharing it!

    As of writing this comment there are a lot of road works on the DT128 toad the southern part of it.

    1. Tom says:
      October 31, 2024 at 5:42 AM

      Hi Val,

      Thanks for the update on road conditions. Hopefully, the roadworks will only last a few months.

      Best,

      Tom

  11. Frank says:
    April 8, 2024 at 1:06 AM

    A highly recommended hotel in Sin Ho is the Khach San Hong Ho. 300,000 VND for a spacious room with a new bathroom.

    1. Tom says:
      April 8, 2024 at 10:46 AM

      Hi Frank,

      Thanks for the recommendation.

      Best,

      Tom

  12. Flo says:
    March 17, 2024 at 3:39 AM

    Hello,

    We are currently in Sapa and reconsidering whether to do this loop or not. We came from Dien Bien Phu and we saw a lot of smoke due to burning season which seriously impedes visibility. Did any of the previous posters do this loop in March? How was the experience for you?

    Cheers,
    Flo

    1. Tom says:
      March 19, 2024 at 1:46 AM

      Hi Flo,

      Personally, I would do this route if the weather is good – it’s worth it.

      Best,

      Tom

      1. Flo says:
        March 28, 2024 at 2:08 PM

        Hello Tom,

        Thanks for the advice. We went for it and were not disappointed. We spent 4 days on the loop. First night, we stayed in Lai Châu, Pa Tan (Thao Trang hotel, cool little hotel overlooking the river) and Sin Hô in Bùi Sang Homestay where they offer herbal baths and dinner. We felt very welcome there.

        We didn’t feel the smoke was too much of an issue although it definitely limited the visibility. We had wonderful weather for 3 days so we really can’t complain.

        Roads are in very good state generally.
        Two sections are bad at the moment, where you need to be careful.
        – the road between Dao San and Nam Cay in the optional loop. Lots of potholes, some small sections with pointy rocks, reduced visibility due to vegetation and sharp turns.
        – the second half of the way up to Sin Hô. Lots of construction works at the moment, so expect sand, gravel and potholes.

        My favorite parts were the optional loop, the way up to Sin Ho and the part between Lai Châu and the intersection (great road, great views).

        So glad we went for it instead of the Hà Giang loop! We were the only tourists the whole way through.
        Thanks!

        1. Tom says:
          March 31, 2024 at 4:03 AM

          Hi Flo,

          Thank you for your trip report and updates on road conditions – it’s great that you enjoyed this route and your updates are very helpful to me and to other travellers.

          Best,

          Tom

  13. Ross says:
    November 6, 2023 at 1:46 PM

    Hi all,
    On the loop now, had to find accommodation (Nhà nghỉ Quân Chớn -250k per night) after sin ho to the south as a thunderstorm rolled through.
    Road DT128 out of sin ho (traveling clockwise) to QL12 is in a bad state for the most part but the views are still amazing. Timing this ride for an evening created heavenly scenes of god rays glistening through the brooding clouds into the valleys below. This along with the bridge over nam nah river looked like something out of Harry Potter.
    If driving with a partner I suggest allowing extra time for photos and bum rests! As for Sin ho my partner and I felt like we had gone to the wrong town in relation to the descriptions above. After crusing around the town we stopped for maybe half an hour at the stagnant “lake” to have a beer and snacks. Found that the stay in Lai chau (Khách Sạn Minh Sơn Lai Châu-250k one night) with a view over the many mountain peaks to be more pleasant.
    Thinking of extending our trip to a 4 day by either heading south and going along dt127 which follows the river and loops back north. Or head north and fit the loop on the border to China (if we don’t get turned back).
    After ending in Sapa we plan to head east to ha giang to do the loop, but concerned as to how busy it might be.
    PS the beds at both the nha nghi’s listed have felt like sleeping on floors.

    1. Tom says:
      November 7, 2023 at 9:36 AM

      Hi Ross,

      Thank you for the road updates. Glad you’re enjoying the ride. Good to know the scenery is still good, even though parts of the road aren’t in good condition at the moment.

      Sorry you didn’t like Sin Ho, most people find it quite interesting and in a great location high up in the mountains.

      Haha! I love hard beds – they’re great for sleep and much better for your body 🙂

      Best,

      Tom

  14. StressLessTravel says:
    October 18, 2023 at 9:31 AM

    Hello Tom,

    Just back in Sapa after 4 days of amazing Loop. Thanks for your post!

    To update the roads status, all roads are perfect!

    We modified a bit the loop with your intel and I would like to share it with all the people here if someone is thinking to do something similar.

    In the second section, we wanted to drive as close to China as posible, so we went from Lai Chau to Dao San making the detour you suggest in the post. The roads here were pefect, clean asphalt all the way to Dao San.

    Here, instead of going direction Ta Phin, we keept driving north (with perfect clean asphalt) following the road DT132 (trough Den thang A, Ho meo, Pa Vay Su, Si Choang) until Si Choang.

    In Si Choang, in the petrol station, instead of following the DT132 that seems to enter China at some point, we turn left in a road called “Tuan Bien” that leads you until the border with China in “JinshuiHezen”. The road is semi asphalt semi offroad road. It’s not complicated if you drive slowly. We have no offroad experience and we did it with no problems. It’s a 33km road that follows the river that separates Vietnam and China. You drive parallel to a wall China has built to block vietnamese people to enter China. For us, a really cool experience.

    In the section three, although you mentioned that someone told you the road was not good when you did it, we decided to drive from Sin Ho to Lai Chau via Nam Trang. Nowadays, the road is perfect, clean asphalt and the landscape is amazing! Rice fields, small villages, pagodas,… really amazing.

    That’s all 😊
    Thanks!

    1. Tom says:
      October 19, 2023 at 12:29 AM

      Hi,

      Thanks for the trip report. The ‘tuan bien’ road is a border zone, so technically foreign travellers aren’t allowed to ride without a permit. Hopefully, the rules will be relaxed a bit in the future.

      Best,

      Tom

  15. Marie-France says:
    October 18, 2023 at 4:16 AM

    Hello!

    I just finish to ride the loop clockwise. The road south of Sin Ho (the road DT128 until the junction with the QL12) is in bad condition at the moment. There were many landslides, but it was still possible to pass. All this area is full of holes, dirty patch, and rocks. I doubt that there was a full km that was fully pave, it has been in the past, but it’s not anymore… The driving was fine as it was a sunny day, I had to drive very slowly, but I would not recommend if it’s wet or foggy, especially if you drive it in that direction as you will go down from the mountain.

    I stayed at Nhà Nghi Duyên Hai in Sin Ho, I paid 150k, and it was clean and alright for a night.
    The Coffee Hoàng Gia and the restaurant Jumong Quàn are really good options for coffee and food!

    Enjoy the loop, the sceneries are stunning!

    1. Tom says:
      October 19, 2023 at 12:20 AM

      Hi Marie-France,

      Thank you for the trip report and useful road updates. And I’m glad you enjoyed the scenery on this loop.

      Best,

      Tom

    2. Mark Binstadt says:
      November 1, 2023 at 10:24 AM

      Thank you for the information. I plan to ride from Muong Lay to Sin Ho via the DT128, and then from Sin Ho on to Sapa. I am on a Honda 110 Wave. I am wondering what kind of bike you were on and how you think a semi automatic would handle the conditions you describe? Thank you for any feedback you or Tom may have.

      1. Tom says:
        November 1, 2023 at 12:51 PM

        Hi Mark,

        In dry conditions, you should be fine riding on a Honda 110 on that route (I’ve ridden all the routes on my website on a Yamaha automatic). If it is very wet, then landslides are possible and parts of the road may be muddy and difficult. Just go by the weather conditions when you are there: worst case scenario is that you ride up as far as you can and then either have to way for the road to be cleared or go back down to the main road.

        Best,

        Tom

  16. Alberto & Beatrice says:
    August 6, 2023 at 5:10 PM

    Hi Tom,

    We’d like to thank you very much for this awesome tour you created.
    We completed it in three days and it made us experience the “real” Vietnam. 🇻🇳

    ✨Best highlight: we felt like the only travellers on those roads with locals waving hello to us while we were riding!

    🏍️ We rented a 135cc automatic Yamaha at Thuê xe máy uy tín giá rẻ Sapa, very fair price compared to others. The motorbike did the job well, up and down mountains and hills. If you know how to drive a motorbike, you will be fine.

    🛣️ Roads were mostly in good condition apart from the way up to Sin Ho which was a bit bumpy – nothing to worry about, you just need to be a bit more careful.

    🏩 Accommodations were easy to find, you can also book them on the spot or find a homestay. Villa De La Roseraie in Sin Ho told us one night would be 800K, so we decided instead to stay at the the Nhà nghỉ Duyên Hải, not fancy at all but way cheaper (around 150k dong).

    🍽️ Must try in Lai Chau is the bahn xeo from Bánh Xèo Kim Ngân, highly recommended!
    As for Sin Ho, try the fried tofu and the veggie noodles at Jumong Quán – Ẩm Thực Tây Bắc: big portions and tasty food.

    Enjoy the ride and thank you again Tom! 😊

    Albi & Bea

    1. Tom says:
      August 10, 2023 at 4:27 AM

      Hi Alberto & Beatrice,

      Thanks for your trip report and updates. I’m very happy to hear you enjoyed your road trip.

      Best,

      Tom

  17. Brendon Lim says:
    June 5, 2023 at 12:32 PM

    The name of the bakery I mentioned is Hoang Gia Bakery. They are not listed on Google Maps.

  18. Brendon Lim says:
    June 5, 2023 at 10:11 AM

    Update:
    Wanted to try the hot herbal bath based on your recommendation. Ba Sanh Homestay seems to be closed as the garden gate was locked. Pity though as I’ve never tried the herbal bath.
    Thanh Nam bakery did not have any cake or buns. But there was another bakery which I forgot the name about 15 meters away. If you are coming from Phuc To Hotel, Thanh Nam will be on your right hand side. This bakery will be on the left hand side and is before Thanh Nam.

  19. Brendon Lim says:
    June 5, 2023 at 7:05 AM

    Last night I tried the roast pork you mentioned and it was nice but pricey in my opinion. A small plate of roast pork with rice and a coke cost 130k. Luckily I did not order anything else as it was very filling. The roast pork made up for the lousy lunch I had. LOL.

    This morning 5/6 left Lai Chau at 0630 for Phong Tho via QL4D/QL100/DT132/QL12.
    Decided to press on to Sin Ho taking the longer route QL12/DT128.
    Staying at Khach San Phuc Tho for 200k per night. A bit haggard and old but it will do. The elderly couple were very happy to get a guest and I did not bother to go elsewhere to check out the room.
    Road conditions are all right but I got caught in the rain for an hour.

  20. Brendon Lim says:
    June 4, 2023 at 6:28 AM

    Left Lao Cai this morning 4/6 to Lai Chau. I took part of the Y Ty road and it was quite scenic. Originally planned to stay overnight at Y Ty and do the whole loop but due to the issues of foreigners not allowed to stay without a permit I decided to do part of the loop.
    It was a pleasant ride and am now at Lai Chau for the night.
    Lai Chau is exactly like you described big buildings but seems soulless. Lol.

    Staying at the Binh Long Hotel 2 for 300k. The hotel looks fancy.
    When riding around the area looking for food o saw the Binh Long Hotel 1 nearby which doesn’t look as new as V2.
    Due to the intense humidity I try to leave the hotel by 0630 and arrive my next destination before 1200.

    1. Tom says:
      June 5, 2023 at 6:22 AM

      Hi Brendon,

      Good to hear you’re enjoying the ride. Yes, it’s a pity foreigners can’t just turn up and stay overnight in Y Ty, but at least there are other options for an overnight stay in the region. Lai Chau makes a lot of sense.

      Best,

      Tom

  21. StressLess Travel says:
    May 22, 2023 at 3:52 PM

    Hi Tom!
    Amazing post! We used you Ha Ging Loop post a couple of years ago and it was also amazing!

    I would like to ask if you know any detour or sport to see the border with China as in the “North pole” in Ha Giang. I loved it that time and I would like to feel close to China also this time.

    There are a couple of detours from Nam Cay (using QL12) or An Tan using sideroads. Any suggestion?

    Thanks!!

    1. Tom says:
      May 23, 2023 at 8:02 AM

      Hi,

      Yes, you could follow those routes to the Chinese border. However, ever since the pandemic, border areas have become much more ‘sensitive’ and patrolled by border police: it’s quite common for foreign riders to be stopped and turned back, especially near remote borders. So bear that in mind if you do decide to take a detour to a border.

      Best,

      Tom

      1. StressLess Travel says:
        May 23, 2023 at 8:30 AM

        Good point! Thanks!

        We may try to do it from Khoa San to Nam Cay. I will post and update in October!

        Thanks

  22. Mark Ketzler says:
    May 17, 2023 at 8:50 AM

    I will be doing this loop soon. Sin Sui Ho would be an easy side trip. Do you recommend it?
    tia

    1. Tom says:
      May 17, 2023 at 10:17 AM

      Hi Mark,

      Yes, that’s a good idea.

      Best,

      Tom

  23. Marion says:
    May 12, 2023 at 5:11 AM

    We have just finished this scenic trip with a 3 days tour. We have done the small extra loop taking the road QL100 between Muong so and Nam Cay.

    Thank you for the suggestion ! The road was very scenic and varied, passing through rice fields, tea plantations and small villages !
    We absolutely loved it !

    All the road where in good conditions except the Road 4D cũ from Lai Chau. This valley is very pretty and worth a trip, however there is currently massive road works with big engines and slippery roads.

    The road to sin ho is absolutely sublime !

    1. Tom says:
      May 12, 2023 at 6:03 AM

      Hi Marion,

      Thanks for your trip report. I’m glad you enjoyed it. And it’s great to know that most of the roads are in good condition – I hope the works on 4D cũ will be finished soon.

      Best,

      Tom